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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I'm saying FCs are already have a pretty obvious advantage. They don't need a further advantage just because there's extra stuff for FCs.
    It's not an advantage when that's not the problem.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    But let's say the cost was upped to 5 billion gil for a small FC house, 50 billion gil for a medium FC house, and 500 billion gil for a large FC house, would that negate said advantage in your eyes? Remember we're talking British billion here, so 5'000'000'000'000 gil for a small. Do you think that would stop the problem with regards to solo FCs?
    I don't think solo FCs are a problem, but obviously making FC houses cost more to help offset the increased ability of multiple people to make any particular amount of money relative to a single person. I'm fine with simply letting every prospective buyer, whether they represent an FC or themselves, go for houses at the same time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    It's not an advantage when that's not the problem.
    Then you live in an alternate reality separate from the rest of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    Sounds to me like you're reading far more into that than what is actually being said.
    You are the one trying to put words into their mouth by guessing what it means. How can you say that it means "they are aware of the situation of FC not being able to get housing, but Shirogane will not be different than any other residential area, blah blah blah". That doesn't make any sense.
    And now you are telling that I am the one reading too much into it? Get lost. Their answer can't be more clear. Do you want me to copy paste it again?

    "We are currently in the middle of investigating how much of the population owns housing, so this hasn't been decided yet. We will look into this a bit more before making a decision."
    tl;dr: "We don't know yet if Shirogane will be open for everyone or not". I have no clue how you can think it means something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niraves View Post
    I made a personal fc and had it up to rank 6 in two hours. If I can do it that quick, you can bet there's a lot of people that already did it too.

    Locking Shirogane to FCs only won't solve the housing problems.
    exactly! I was going to say - 1-2 million gil and a few hours and rank 6 easy. Your character looks adorable btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    exactly! I was going to say - 1-2 million gil and a few hours and rank 6 easy. Your character looks adorable btw
    Thank you! Your character is very pretty! ^_^

    On topic, I personally made an FC just in case Shriogane is locked for FCs only at first. SE created this problem by making housing a limited feature when it very clearly should have been instanced so that everyone could own a house. I'm not going to miss out on the chance to buy the Doman style house I've always wanted, and I know its selfish to have an FC house for just me and my two friends, but with so much crafting stuff tied to airships ( and probably submarines when those are released ) its really just too expensive to buy all of the airship items every time we need one to craft something.
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  6. #46
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    Slightly off-topic, but I wish they'd let us build ANY kind of house in ANY of the housing areas. I mean, what's wrong with a Glade house in Mist? Not all houses in a neighborhood in real life look all the same. Well, maybe some places they do. And it's just Stepford Wives creepy. xD But otherwise I don't see why we can building any type of house in any area. Is there a limitation reason or something?
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You are the one trying to put words into their mouth by guessing what it means. How can you say that it means "they are aware of the situation of FC not being able to get housing, but Shirogane will not be different than any other residential area, blah blah blah". That doesn't make any sense.
    And now you are telling that I am the one reading too much into it? Get lost. Their answer can't be more clear. Do you want me to copy paste it again?

    "We are currently in the middle of investigating how much of the population owns housing, so this hasn't been decided yet. We will look into this a bit more before making a decision."
    tl;dr: "We don't know yet if Shirogane will be open for everyone or not". I have no clue how you can think it means something else.
    Context.

    Q: Is the timing for purchasing plots in Shirogane the same for free companies and individuals?
    A: We are currently in the middle of investigating how much of the population owns housing, so this hasn't been decided yet. We will look into this a bit more before making a decision.

    Your TLDR is an assumption on your part based on your particular interpretation of the live letter answers. Have you even considered the uproar that would happen if they tried to restrict Shirogane to FC's only? It would end up being a PR nightmare, especially when single player FC's start scooping up houses to flip. So no, I won't "get lost". I am 100% confident that when Shirogane opens up it will pretty much work like all the other residential zones outside of the whole new "moving" feature. Could I be wrong? Sure that's a possibility, but I personally believe its so remote a possibility that its not even worth getting worked up over. I guess we'll just have to see when it goes live won't we? If I am wrong I am wrong. It's no skin off my back. I've got my ideal house already and have no interest in moving. I just think its silly to get people in a tizzy over an "issue" when there has been no indication whatsoever from the devs that it might actually be a thing.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxas View Post
    At the start? or for private as well?

    can anyone confirm?
    Do realize that people will create a FC of one just take advantage of that. If you thought FC invite spam was bad before... plus there is a large loop hole to getting people into a FC (why is there not a level 15 requirement to join or invite people to a FC.)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amariel34 View Post
    Slightly off-topic, but I wish they'd let us build ANY kind of house in ANY of the housing areas. I mean, what's wrong with a Glade house in Mist? Not all houses in a neighborhood in real life look all the same. Well, maybe some places they do. And it's just Stepford Wives creepy. xD But otherwise I don't see why we can building any type of house in any area. Is there a limitation reason or something?
    Glade sets are the cutest, I'd love some of their stuff on my mist house ;-;

    Heres to hoping the liveletter clears up all the housing info. Not shooting for a personal, but I would like to have everything made crystal clear before balmung's bloodbath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    Q: Is the timing for purchasing plots in Shirogane the same for free companies and individuals?
    A: We are currently in the middle of investigating how much of the population owns housing, so this hasn't been decided yet. We will look into this a bit more before making a decision.

    ... I am 100% confident that when Shirogane opens up it will pretty much work like all the other residential zones outside of the whole new "moving" feature. Could I be wrong? Sure that's a possibility, but I personally believe its so remote a possibility that its not even worth getting worked up over.
    Yoshi-P doesn't seem to regard it as that remote of a possibility if he says they're looking into it and haven't made a decision yet. I'm not sure where you're getting this certainty that that decision will match the one you would make, when the devs themselves aren't sure of it yet.
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