A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[Moonlite]

Why can't we store the wedding set in the armoire? Any item that comes from an event/item/cash should have an in game way to store or a cheesey way to recover.

[Lycieus]

I am wondering why no one from the staff posted in a thread that has 166 likes with 63 pages long?

It would be bad PR to respond. They need to wait for the dev team to deliberate a solution, which they are apparently doing, assuming they do anything at all. If they do nothing, obviously it would be bad form to draw attention to it. If they do do something, they will need time to frame it as favorably for themselves as possible.

[Hazuki87]

[B]7. 3 or 4 retainers should be free, not 2
We been paying too much for too long for space shortcomings, cut us some slack please. We should not have to pay double our sub to make up for a shortcoming in the game. [/U]

As for CUL, if your alrdy at endgame 1/2 a retainer can do for endgame craft, I main CUL and doing just fine with one and not even moved on to tab 5,6,7,8 yet. The only Non SB food I still make is Seafood, bec player still by it for the control/Cp buff, we don't have any more with new food.

For most of this sure, bnt #7, hell no... It not a SHORTCOMING, SE will not stop doing something they make a lot of money off just bec ppl want more free shit...This is in place so players will not try to do it all with out paying for it.. You want to be a solo craft with no life and do it all your self.. Then pay for it! Other way work with you're guild and stop being a loner. ( I'm on of them who payed for it, all fucking 8)

[Altena]

As for CUL, if your alrdy at endgame 1/2 a retainer can do for endgame craft, I main CUL and doing just fine with one and not even moved on to tab 5,6,7,8 yet. The only Non SB food I still make is Seafood, bec player still by it for the control/Cp buff, we don't have any more with new food.

For most of this sure, bnt #7, hell no... It not a SHORTCOMING, SE will not stop doing something they make a lot of money off just bec ppl want more free shit...This is in place so players will not try to do it all with out paying for it.. You want to be a solo craft with no life and do it all your self.. Then pay for it! Other way work with you're guild and stop being a loner. ( I'm on of them who payed for it, all fucking 8)

Are you talking about 1 craft here? As in, you're only stockpiling mats for one craft?
Try having a few extra at 70, then tell me there are no inventory space issues.

I have 6 retainers total.
1. One of them is filled with levelling gear for the near-future, that I have collected while levelling other jobs.
2. Another is filled with dungeon drops including green/blue gear that I like the look of (for glamour purposes).
3. Another is filled with stuff like primal tokens, materia, glamour prisms, all of that stuff that you don't really want to just toss.
4. One is filled with bound housing items from the various times I have shuffled around my furniture and replaced certain items. This also includes a number of exclusive event furnishings that I cannot re-obtain without purchasing from the mog station..
5. One is filled with a bunch of desynth items that I am not quite high enough to desynth (Admittedly I could just toss this)
6. And my final retainer, which is full and actually overflowing onto the other 5 retainers - filled with crafting mats for lv 60+ gear, that I craft on a daily basis.

My inventory is also constantly at 135+ with the majority of the items being crafting mats.

Yes, admittedly I am a bit of a hoarder for rare/exclusive items that you can't simply go out and buy off a marketboard - but this is a big part of the problem.
Many other games solve this issue by having a unique storage method for a lot of this stuff that accumulates.
Furthermore, many other games don't have the multi-armory system that this game does, and you don't actually have any reason to store gear for other classes.

Some examples:

- Armoire storage or some form of glamour wardrobe, which allowed us to store all non-tradeable/marketable gear.
- Items such as primal tokens, ventures, raid book pages etc could be stored as a currency, rather than a physical item. Or place these items in the large "Key Items" storage that we have but don't use.
- Materia could be stored in a similar form as crystals.
- Crafting mats could be stored in a crafting log, similar to guildwars 2.

There are a number of already in-game storage methods for a lot of this stuff.. They just have to be adjusted to cater toward a lot of these physical items we tend to accumulate.

[Naunet]

For most of this sure, bnt #7, hell no... It not a SHORTCOMING, SE will not stop doing something they make a lot of money off just bec ppl want more free shit...This is in place so players will not try to do it all with out paying for it.. You want to be a solo craft with no life and do it all your self.. Then pay for it! Other way work with you're guild and stop being a loner. ( I'm on of them who payed for it, all fucking 8)

No. It IS a shortcoming, and it's disgusting that SE expects people to rent inventory space. Rent inventory space in a god damned subscription-based MMO.

[Paladinleeds]

No. It IS a shortcoming, and it's disgusting that SE expects people to rent inventory space. Rent inventory space in a god damned subscription-based MMO.

But people are willing to pay for it (and yes I'm part of the problem too). If they fix the inventory problems and offer more space for free, I wouldn't need those extra retainers and that's lost revenue for the company, and I bet I'm far from the only one there. If they tried that their shareholders would have them fired on the spot. But let's say they did it and doubled the sub fee for everyone, that could work, but then people would complain about "I don't need all this extra space, why should I have to pay extra for my sub?" - because yes, if SE takes out the renting option for retainers, expect the sub fee to go up for everyone to account for the lost revenue. SE is a business. It has one purpose. Make as much profit as possible.

Yes SE is a business but they need people that are playing the game. If they do not provide us with a good solution people will quit in the future. Thus lost money too. They already have lots of income thanks to the cash shop..if they cant provide us with enough space without sold retainers or higher fee, then I do question if this game is even truly profitable.

Be too greedy and you will lose too much money.

Now, that is a fair point and one I hadn't truly accounted for. However, at this time, I don't think it's hurting SE's back pocket too much. In time, things may get worse and therefore the pendulum swings, but that is for the future and I'll cross that bridge if we get to it. It all depends on the playerbase.

[Alleo]

Yes SE is a business but they need people that are playing the game. If they do not provide us with a good solution people will quit in the future. Thus lost money too. They already have lots of income thanks to the cash shop..if they cant provide us with enough space without sold retainers or higher fee, then I do question if this game is even truly profitable.

Be too greedy and you will lose too much money.

[Faeon]

I had to buy another retainer that is 3 now I don't understand how they calculate space requirements with all the amount of items you need to craft or gather. Item bloat I think.

[Princess_Momoka]

But people are willing to pay for it (and yes I'm part of the problem too). If they fix the inventory problems and offer more space for free, I wouldn't need those extra retainers and that's lost revenue for the company, and I bet I'm far from the only one there. If they tried that their shareholders would have them fired on the spot. But let's say they did it and doubled the sub fee for everyone, that could work, but then people would complain about "I don't need all this extra space, why should I have to pay extra for my sub?" - because yes, if SE takes out the renting option for retainers, expect the sub fee to go up for everyone to account for the lost revenue. SE is a business. It has one purpose. Make as much profit as possible.



Now, that is a fair point and one I hadn't truly accounted for. However, at this time, I don't think it's hurting SE's back pocket too much. In time, things may get worse and therefore the pendulum swings, but that is for the future and I'll cross that bridge if we get to it. It all depends on the playerbase.

Willing? no, they pay for it because they(we/me) HAVE TO to be functional in the game. People are approaching more and more to that line of simply quitting because of lack of room for stuff.

3. Another is filled with stuff like primal tokens, materia, glamour prisms, all of that stuff that you don't really want to just toss.

This is plain ridiculous, I too have a retainer purely dedicated to currencies. We should not be forced to rent space for currencies.

From ventues to blue/red/Regional Folklore tokens, so on, all these items should simply not exist or be in a currency tab.

It would be bad PR to respond. They need to wait for the dev team to deliberate a solution, which they are apparently doing, assuming they do anything at all. If they do nothing, obviously it would be bad form to draw attention to it. If they do do something, they will need time to frame it as favorably for themselves as possible.

How are they "working on a solution" when all they do is keep adding to the problem?? (like the 3 sands from the same node example I gave, or the new delta currencies and the Regional Folklore tokens. I want to know why they keep ADDING to the problem and not fixing it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Is is another alt Ama? How many do you have lol.