Final Fantasy XIV 1.23b - Would you Play it if Available?

[Krotoan]

I'm playing both, thank you. Some friends from XI are here sadly, others are still on XI.

I am truly curious why you'd keep playing a game you seem to hate so very much. Perhaps I've taken your words too harshly, but you've put down the current designers and devs and seem to truly dislike everything about it. My friends play golf, I never will because I find it boring and tedious. Why keep playing?

[Paladinleeds]

As a player, I feel insulted by him, behaving and speaking like we're a stupid flock of sheeps, making us pay for a sub for trash servers, putting a cash shop, pay for live shows, thinking we're too stupid to understand elemental wheels or teamplay, thinking everything would be too stressful for us poor souls when he created one of the most stressful game I've ever played, no houses for everyone.

He didn't make it according to 1.0 player ideas, he made what he wanted to do and he's still making what he wants to do, plain and simple, all the while pretending listening to the feedback. No misunderstanding here, only SE's typical new way of manipulating and lying to the players. I worked for them in EU, they're not some kind of angels all loving and caring for their dear players and this is exactly why I left, they do not care for nor respect their players, only play pretend.

And hey, it works, for the most part.

Some things that do get implemented are based off player feedback (though examples currently escape me, my mind is elsewhere). However, the problem is when you're dealing with such a wide variety of players, it creates a collective sense of "We don't know what we want" because everyone wants different things (which is natural, due to the way humans are all individual with their own thoughts, beliefs, and personalities). In that case, the devs have to trust their vision there. And speaking of vision, despite our feedback, they have a game-plan for how they want this game to be, and that will affect the overall direction of the game. Now that being said, I don't agree with all SE's practices (such as charging by the month for extra storage space, but hey it nets them a lot of profit so business wise it'd be stupid to get rid of it), but people still flock to this game, I daresay more people than there are legacy players. So business-wise, it makes sense for SE to cater to them, the casual market is a much bigger and lucrative market.

[Vanfrano]

I am truly curious why you'd keep playing a game you seem to hate so very much. Perhaps I've taken your words too harshly, but you've put down the current designers and devs and seem to truly dislike everything about it. My friends play golf, I never will because I find it boring and tedious. Why keep playing?

My friends, we've been playing together for 15 years so I'm just here to play with them. It doesn't take that much time anyway so I can cope with it since we're done after weekly farming and everyone goes back to FFXI or other games.

[Krotoan]

My friends, we've been playing together for 15 years so I'm just here to play with them. It doesn't take that much time anyway so I can cope with it since we're done after weekly farming and everyone goes back to FFXI or other games.

Interesting. That's admirable. I've stopped every game my friends play that I really don't like. There's gotta be some fun aspect for it for me to keep going. Diablo III for example. I bought it and played through all the default characters stories. Then the "seasons" started and it was just an insane gear grind that I hated. So I stopped. They still play but I'm not going to sit there and be frustrated just to put in "face time". We still voice chat, but we don't gotta be in the same game.

[DarkB]

I think 1.0 would have been better if they worked on it. it was taking a good path.

the thing i can not stand on xiv is the fact that yoshi turned a final fantasy title in a massive casual game, and by definition an MMO can not be casual, because mmo requires time to sink in, into a long term achievement and goal.
Everything in ARR is extremely fast/dull/repetitive. People realize that we are playing the same pattern of content over and over trough years? Or They Do not see it?

Savage/Tomestone grinding/primals. Over and over and over. I was expecting a new life with Stormblood, but Yoshi didnt fail me into disappointing me. Everyone has its own taste, but i find extremely boring to do the same thing over and over. Once i bought Stormblood hoping for a very drastic change of direction (my bad) i got disappointed instantly. Level up to 70, do the primal, start farming tomestone (same exact thing i was doing before stormblood, with the exception of new areas, which again we all know how much open world count nothing in Xiv, so after u gather all aether currents you are basically done lookin at them).

And this is where i completely stopped playing, i shouldnt have renew my sub and bought stormblood, lesson learned, and next time i'll just check after the product is released. To me is unacceptable that the game does not offer any improvement, any new ideas, nothing remarkable justfying an expansion, everything is the same, all too easy, now there is going to be the same iteration of things over and over and over, a new savage, a new relic, then back to pattern of adding a primal and a new tomestone, over again.

On top of this, the classes disparity between tanks/healers/dps on queue is ridicolous, the overall combat is extremely dull flat and copy/pasted in between jobs. There is not enough difference to justify this amount of jobs to be honest. Gearing is the same for everyone with even shared set of gear, (poorly designed since coil era to be honest).
I just find this game not an mmo anymore, if i have to play a repetitive content/pattern im gonna play and farm Diablo 3. This game is not really that different from Diablo 3 for example.

But again, if this is what brings SE/Yoshi money, if this is what people want, then good for them and him, its just sad to me that they completely eradicated the meaning of MMO from a Final Fantasy title just to please a casual modern gaming community that wants instant reward.

[Casca-Hawk]

I really wish I had played 1.0, it sounds like it was a beautiful mess of a game. Not to mention as an avid Minion/Mount collector I would kill for those Legacy mounts!

[eschaton]

Memories, would almost start posting screenshots. But no, to theeee fuuuuuuuutuuure and beyyyyyyoooonnndddd! Live long and prosper 4.x

[DarkPikachu]

i wish we could take a party of people, take a quest pick a certain area, for example 1.0 Thanalan and just go exploring with friends, have a 30 minute timer or something. The adventurer in me wishes for this sooooo much lol

[SnowLiore]

I honestly wish I could go back. Me and my wife both bought the game. pre-ordered the collector's edition only to install them on our pc's and when we went to run them got error messages that according to SE were related to our pc's video capabilities not being up to par for the game. At the time there were a few forums mentioning a very select few video cards being able to run the game. So saying players of the time killed the game kinda doesn't help. It's been almost 5 years. Alot changes. I'm running a MUCH better desktop now than I had then and find the graphics and animations from that version to be far superior the more I look into it.

[Shori]

The only thing I miss about 1.xx was the way miner and botanist were played as a game of itself. Sure, we have it now in the gold saucer, but thats only for MGP which I have enough of already :/
Everything else about 1.xx especially the lag was just... no