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  1. #91
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Yea.... I noticed after watching my recording the tail only seems to strike the middle (which kept killing me after getting caught up in the other aoes), the rest however remain a problem, especially Earth Breath and it's un-named counterpart that pushes everyone off the map since they cover pretty much the entire map and when you're trying to find the safe spot in a panic theres usually not enough time to get there
    I will agree that Earth Breath is annoying. I still screw up on it. and constantly forget about it.

    And are you talking about when he flies across the whole area? That's actually pretty easy to avoid if you remember to watch for where he lands first, and never stand on the grey area. Move to a blue cardinal platform (north, south, etc.) since it will always be two opposite corners that are safe. If you are still having trouble try popping sprint as well.
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  2. #92
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I think it will be nerfed, I have helped friends complete this trial, because people kept leaving after 1 wipe. Aslong as the players (those that have completed it) keep leaving after a wipe or two, then I can understand why SE would nerf it, if they were going to.
    They didn't nerf Final Steps of Faith, which had similar issues at first. Regardless, what can they honestly nerf? More often than not, it's people messing up mechanics than the outcoming damage. So unless they remove certain mechanics or make the damage so trivial you can ignore said mechanics, it won't help. If they actually do the latter... what a disappointment that would be.
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  3. #93
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    Lustaria's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Tamamo Kuroka
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Actually they did nerf FSoF, at least they nerfed the boss's max HP down some. Not sure if they touched anything else.

    Also as something they could tweak/'nerf' is, at least when I first did it, was the amount of times the mechanics would be put out. There would be like no breathing room at all. At least for me. xD;; Although as I said before, I don't think it really needs to be nerfed.
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    Last edited by Lustaria; 07-14-2017 at 01:57 AM.

  4. #94
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    Vurtney's Avatar
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    Saryn Storm
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    If one or two new players die, the fight can be still cleared by the rest of the group. It scales for all skill levels and doesn't take many tries to figure out. I would add the echo tops and leave it as it is.
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  5. #95
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    They didn't nerf Final Steps of Faith, which had similar issues at first. Regardless, what can they honestly nerf? More often than not, it's people messing up mechanics than the outcoming damage. So unless they remove certain mechanics or make the damage so trivial you can ignore said mechanics, it won't help. If they actually do the latter... what a disappointment that would be.
    Final steps was needed by people getting better gear but in this case, the gear vendors and 70 dungeons are locked out until you finish it. If they unlock the vendors and open the 70 dungeons, then overgearing becomes an option.
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  6. #96
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Final steps was needed by people getting better gear but in this case, the gear vendors and 70 dungeons are locked out until you finish it. If they unlock the vendors and open the 70 dungeons, then overgearing becomes an option.
    Ala Mhigo is an expert dungeon. People can farm that for their i300 gear while getting their tomes for when they beat it.
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  7. #97
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
    World
    Cuchulainn
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Please nerf the huge lag spikes and random disconnecting in dungeons.
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  8. #98
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    Kurando's Avatar
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    Ku Rando
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This is an amazing trial, I kinda hope it will never be nerfed and that we can expect a Savage version very soon! To help those struggling, having Echo is probably the best way to go. The entire fight is so structured that you can predict pretty much every attack or at least know what you might need to do next. But the problem I've been seeing is some players are just not learning or responding at all to the attacks of the boss. Plenty of times there have been a caster weaving a spell and you can see they are about to get flattened by the tail, yet they just don't move. If I play healer, the Rescue action is pretty much on cooldown the entire fight to grab the slow movers out of danger.

    The fight is just a recap of every other primal and once you pick up on the mechs, it's actually a really easy and fun duty to play.
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  9. #99
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    Mide Uyagir
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    This is an encounter that can be learned within a few pulls. It's fine.
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  10. #100
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    Dortharl's Avatar
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    Noah Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    A bit melodramatic don't you think? Where is your proof that "new players" will get frustrated? I think entitled players who say "I want everything on a silver platter" will, but those are in the minority, and the game would be better off without those players holding the game hostage with their sub money.

    If a player wants to beat this fight, they will. If they want to roll on their back and cry (or even go as far as to quit over it) without trying then they don't deserve the nerf.
    I think you sound more entitled than the players you are referring to, I'm not sure how nerfing content you have already completed affects you. I personally completed this content in my first group because I was fortunate to be matched with players who were capable of understanding the mechanics and working together. I have no interest in looking down on players who are less skilled or able than myself and being able to complete content they cannot does not give me a sense of superiority, instead I empathize with group who have very long queues to attempt to play this content only to have group disband after failed attempts and then have to queue again.

    Whether this content is changed or not, I hope that those players like yourself will be willing to help groups when they queue for this content and not simply abandon the duty after one or two failures.
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