Final Fantasy XIV 1.23b - Would you Play it if Available?

[tymora]

I missed the following...
1. Job changing during dungeons - Feel it made FFXIV unique.
2. Dungeon Speed Runs - Yes, it promotes Elitism but it is also fun as hell to squeeze every bit of speed out of a dungeon.
3. Ifrit Extreme - More random moves made it clearing a run actually a somewhat luck dependent and truly challenging...
4. White Raven fight - The arena was beautiful and not flat.
5. Resistances and elements actually meant something.
6. Open world leveling. Yes, it does get boring if you do it a lot, but another option is always good.
7. "Global" community on each server.

[Galgarion]

If it was soooooo great, we'd be playing it now. This thread is sheer nostalgia-bation. It''s like watching people insist that, yeah, broadband is cool and all, but AOL dial-up was pure sex and all you millenials missed out.

[Mook_Mook]

I would gladly and I think peachy hit it. Most of us thought we were getting ffxiv improved not what we got. I would have never become legacy status if I knew the game was going to go in this direction.
While the game was clunky the fights were fun, slower paced, decent social environment and man the animations were fantastic. Played much differently than most mmos with the slower ffxi style and it was a good mix and old and new.

But I know I am in the minority people like the current ffxiv I think. I think its mediocre nothing stand out or innovative does a serviceable job but I feel like the mmo market is pretty terrible atm.

[Vanfrano]

In what way? Combat was slow, the UI was awful. the world was bland, there were few dungeons and people would only take you if you had melded gear for speedruns for darklight gear, and the primals were few, and the lag was awful.

I'd take slow combat over stupid button mashing/aoe dancing anytime. I remember the world way more than the zones we have now, hell I don't even remember a dungeon I ran an hour ago.
Final job quests were done with 4 players and were hard, required teamplay. Dungeons had mechanics and not just move around avoiding everything. AoEs from bosses were avoidable too but the bosses didn't spam aoes left and right and their actions were random, everything is scripted here.

Open-world exp/spiritbond parties. Materias actually meant something. NMs and coffers in the open.
Characters and monsters had weight, the graphics were beautiful and the textures didn't look as awful as they do now. Cutscenes were nicely made.

Relics were... relics, not useless weapons given to you by spamming useless easy content.

We were expecting a 1.23b 2.0 not the awful thing we have now, we wouldn't have gone legacy if we knew it was going to be this way.

It just became a game for easy-to-please always-in-a-hurry people.

The only thing we're hoping now is for Yoshida to go away, far away and never come back. Or a FFXI remake.

[Enkidoh]

We were expecting a 1.23b 2.0 not the awful thing we have now, we wouldn't have gone legacy if we knew it was going to be this way.

It just became a game for easy-to-please always-in-a-hurry people.

The only thing we're hoping now is for Yoshida to go away, far away and never come back. Or a FFXI remake.

Although many of these comments in this thread I may not agree with but I accept others opinions on this subject, I just want to point out this is an exception to tolerating. This is an incredibly rude and insulting comment towards the man who is universally agreed throughout the gaming industry as having saved FFXIV. This comment is like kicking Yoshi in the head and then spitting on him, it is that insulting.

ARR was built using feedback and wishes from 1.0 players. He made it according to 1.0 player ideas. It was never going to be '1.0 with better graphics' or a 'FFXI remake'. It's not SE's fault that people may have misunderstood or were in denial clinging to the past.

Of course there is nothing wrong with liking 1.0 or preferring it over ARR. But 1.0 is gone and will never return.

[Krotoan]

I'd take

.. I don't know why you're playing this game then. FFXI still exists.

1.0+ made all my friends leave. Once they left I tried.. REALLY HARD to enjoy the game for itself but it was difficult to find it engaging. I don't think I'd play a rehashed version of that.

[Fredco191]

I can tell you right now, 1.XX had better textures than our current game.

Not to mention that in 1.X every race (and both genders I think) had unique death animations. They even had stopping animations when you ran. They actually appear in cutscenes.

[Vanfrano]

Although many of these comments in this thread I may not agree with but I accept others opinions on this subject, I just want to point out this is an exception to tolerating. This is an incredibly rude and insulting comment towards the man who is universally agreed throughout the gaming industry as having saved FFXIV. This comment is like kicking Yoshi in the head and then spitting on him, it is that insulting.

ARR was built using feedback and wishes from 1.0 players. He made it according to 1.0 player ideas. It was never going to be '1.0 with better graphics' or a 'FFXI remake'. It's not SE's fault that people may have misunderstood or were in denial clinging to the past.

Of course there is nothing wrong with liking 1.0 or preferring it over ARR. But 1.0 is gone and will never return.

As a player, I feel insulted by him, behaving and speaking like we're a stupid flock of sheeps, making us pay for a sub for trash servers, putting a cash shop, pay for live shows, thinking we're too stupid to understand elemental wheels or teamplay, thinking everything would be too stressful for us poor souls when he created one of the most stressful game I've ever played, no houses for everyone.

He didn't make it according to 1.0 player ideas, he made what he wanted to do and he's still making what he wants to do, plain and simple, all the while pretending listening to the feedback. No misunderstanding here, only SE's typical new way of manipulating and lying to the players. I worked for them in EU, they're not some kind of angels all loving and caring for their dear players and this is exactly why I left, they do not care for nor respect their players, only play pretend.

And hey, it works, for the most part.

[JunseiKei]

"Thank god they constructed a better game."

There you go.

I mean look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5DnpidMiY

There's nothing good to say about it.

Yay, someone else linked it! Seriously, those saying that 1.xx was better, it makes me wonder if they played it from the very beginning, where this documentary covers the many issues and failures that plagued the project? I'd be legitimately surprise if they were, and not where Yoshida came into the project and started the repairs.

[Vanfrano]

.. I don't know why you're playing this game then. FFXI still exists.

1.0+ made all my friends leave. Once they left I tried.. REALLY HARD to enjoy the game for itself but it was difficult to find it engaging. I don't think I'd play a rehashed version of that.

I'm playing both, thank you. Some friends from XI are here sadly, others are still on XI.