DRK needs re-tuning/buffing.

[TheCount]

Stacking tbn with either rampart or shadow wall makes you nearly invincible (Lakshmi's buffed pull of light takes like 5% of my hp bar). For multi-hit tankbusters like Ahk Morn, that's where Dark Mind comes in handy.

I'm gonna go ahead and call exaggeration and nonsense on Lakshmi ex only taking 5% of your health with her buffed tankbuster if you use TBN with rampart, for one TBN doesn't give you 'real' damage protection it just gives you a shield worth a certain amount, the only damage decrease there being the rampart in that case. Lakshmi's buffed tankbuster takes a little bit more than just 25% of your health if you only use rampart.

If it really was that good then Dark Knights would not be complaining about being unable to survive tankbusters from Lakshmi and Susano ex because they run out of mitigation to use while their TBN alone isn't enough to cut it

[Renthas]

Got Bardam's Mettle for leveling roulette this morning, AST healer promptly said "Please don't be a DRK." twice. After the first few pulls, they said "At least you're an appropriately geared papertank" even though I was managing my cooldowns properly.
Think that's a sign of our current pre-70 mitigation issue.

[TouchandFeel]

Got Bardam's Mettle for leveling roulette this morning, AST healer promptly said "Please don't be a DRK." twice. After the first few pulls, they said "At least you're an appropriately geared papertank" even though I was managing my cooldowns properly.
Think that's a sign of our current pre-70 mitigation issue.

To me that comes off more as a sign of a crap or lazy healer.

[Falgern]

I'm gonna go ahead and call exaggeration and nonsense on Lakshmi ex only taking 5% of your health with her buffed tankbuster if you use TBN with rampart, for one TBN doesn't give you 'real' damage protection it just gives you a shield worth a certain amount

TBN is 20% of your maximum health, meaning it is equal to rampart in terms of damage reduction if the damage you take is equal to the maximum of your health, and will reduce more damage than rampart if the damage is below your maximum health. Saying it doesn't provide "real" damage protection is just a stupid statement. It's just as good as any other cooldown in terms of reducing incoming damage. It is an absurdly strong cooldown and only really suffers when the damage is spread out in multiple hits.

If it really was that good then Dark Knights would not be complaining about being unable to survive tankbusters from Lakshmi and Susano ex because they run out of mitigation to use while their TBN alone isn't enough to cut it

Sorry what? I've tanked both of these a stupid amount of times, there is never a point where you run out of cooldowns on either of these encounters unless you're completely incapable of managing your cooldowns to any degree. TBN + Anything else is enough to survive whatever is thrown at you unless you are severely under geared for the content.

[Renthas]

To me that comes off more as a sign of a crap or lazy healer.

They did a pretty good job of healing. Nobody died the entire run, but I have no idea if they were DPSing or not since I wasn't paying attention to their casts, definitely didn't see any Gravity spells go off though

[Veritas-Ancora]

Thank you for the original post.

How in the hell can you not put more focus on the tanking jobs if the tanking community is this t'eed off? If the queues are this long? If people are actively seeking PLD/WAR in party finder and excluding DRK altogether?

I really wish my favorite job wasn't just a Dark Arts obsessive compulsive spam... and allowed ANY level of advantage over the other two jobs.

[SyzzleSpark]

Thank you

You're quite welcome.

And to think, I posted this thread before the Shake it Off buff, AND before the removal of costs on Unchained/Inner Release/Defiance/Deliverance.

Let this thread be evidence that no one is saying DRK is busted because of SiO and that we have been asking for changes for a LONG, LONG time. Hell this even pre-dates the 70+ page feedback thread.