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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    ...peace clearly is an option, since many Garleans have proven themselves to be reasonable and honourable. Garlemald will require changes in regards to how it operates moving forward but it is highly unlikely that it is going to be wiped out by the Eorzeans or the Warrior of Light. It's also a massive sprawling entity and so dismantling it would bring an immense amount of chaos - and good luck justifying ruining and ending the lives of the countless men, women and children living in Garlean territory.
    Not to mention outright war with Garlemald is likely exactly what the Ascians want anyway. The Garleans don't exist just to be an antagonist for our characters, they'll end up screwing with other things off-screen, perhaps as a side result of our actions. Remember that Lakshimi got summoned because the Garleans accidentally killed an Ananta hostage during their retreat from the bridge our forces had just taken.

    (On a side note, I have a feeling there's going to be a big reveal about why pure-blooded Garleans cannot use magic.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    accidentally killed an Ananta hostage during their retreat from the bridge our forces had just taken.
    There was nothing accidental about it. This was Fordola, the same Fordola who committed genocide against her own people under the excuse "I'd win them their freedom"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    There was nothing accidental about it. This was Fordola, the same Fordola who committed genocide against her own people under the excuse "I'd win them their freedom"
    IIRC the quest/cutscene specifically mentions that one of the soldiers panicked and struck the prisoner during the confrontation, a pretty far cry from Fordola straight up executing her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    IIRC the quest/cutscene specifically mentions that one of the soldiers panicked and struck the prisoner during the confrontation, a pretty far cry from Fordola straight up executing her.
    All they had to do was let the prisoner go and make a run for it while the queen was busy reuniting with her daughter to advert the entire crisis. Instead they chose to kill the prisoner, probably thinking the Ananta would be too full of despair to fight.

    Of course that'd mean no Lakshmi fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    There was nothing accidental about it. This was Fordola, the same Fordola who committed genocide against her own people under the excuse "I'd win them their freedom"
    The hell? She didn't "commit genocide". She performed a strike that hit the people under her command, sure, but neither that nor what the skulls were doing suggest she was performing a genocide. In fact, genocide probably would have resulted in her turning on the empire, since the Ala Mihgans cannot be free if the Ala Mighans are all dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    The hell? She didn't "commit genocide". She performed a strike that hit the people under her command, sure, but neither that nor what the skulls were doing suggest she was performing a genocide. In fact, genocide probably would have resulted in her turning on the empire, since the Ala Mihgans cannot be free if the Ala Mighans are all dead.
    Yes, she did. Her and her skulls had no problem whatsoever killing Ala Mhigans such as shown in Ala Gannha, Rhalgr's Reach, and Specula Imperatoris (which also killed her skulls and several imperials as well).. Your logic is so very flawed. You say "genocide probably would have resulted in her turning on the empire, since the Ala Mihgans cannot be free if the Ala Mighans are all dead." yet her every action leads further and further towards that end.
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    Perhaps you should look up the definition of genocide.

    If Fordola is guilty of 'genocide' then so, too, is Aymeric given that he put a lot of his own people to the sword as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Perhaps you should look up the definition of genocide.
    Mass Murder which is indeed what Fordola and her skulls were doing to their own people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klonoa7 View Post
    Mass Murder which is indeed what Fordola and her skulls were doing to their own people


    That is not the definition of genocide, and it is not what Fordola did. And i hesistate to call fighting the Ala Mighan RESISTANCE "genocide", as they do not comprise of all Ala Mihgans. Even the resistance gets in on killing Ala Mighans when they suspect them of not resisting with the empire along with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Perhaps you should look up the definition of genocide.

    If Fordola is guilty of 'genocide' then so, too, is Aymeric given that he put a lot of his own people to the sword as well.
    The only thing Aymeric is guilty of is Patricide which could not be helped considering his father's ambitions made him just just as bad as Garlemald.
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