Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Aramina]

i'll bet you're the type of person to watch someone get robbed and you'll point the figure at the victim saying it's your fault for carrying money.

Victim complex much? Not supporting someone that holds a group hostage instead of leaving is TOTALLY the same thing as watching someone get robbed. /snort

[Aramina]

Oh yes, someone talking trash to you, insulting because they failed to read, and you're supposed to just be polite and not hold them up.

Ego much "snort"



Yea, you clearly did not understand the situation, and i can 100% assure you, nothing you could have or would have done would ever make me leave after 2 minutes. i would pay you to even try.

Stop defending idiots.

jesus, i forgot how ignorant this forum was.

It has nothing to do with ego. I have also had tanks run off on me and nearly get killed. If they say something I will say something back about them running off. What I do NOT do is sit down and pout until they remove me. If I feel insulted, I can leave and report them... sulking accomplishes nothing, and fwiw holding parties hostage is an actionable offense.

You may want to look in the mirror a bit about the ego part though, since you seem to be the one that is thinking quite highly of yourself.

[Jijifli]

Oh yes, someone talking trash to you, insulting because they failed to read, and you're supposed to just be polite and not hold them up.

Ego much "snort"



Yea, you clearly did not understand the situation, and i can 100% assure you, nothing you could have or would have done would ever make me leave after 2 minutes. i would pay you to even try.

Stop defending idiots.

jesus, i forgot how ignorant this forum was.

Can I ask for clarity since you deleted your original post?

What specifically happened? Because if it is over protect that I'm lead to believe, I think you have a worse temper than I do.

[Texa]

I just had a tank in the royal menagerie who kept pulling immediately as soon as the shield was down. Didn't give us a warning, didn't wait for protect, didn't wait for shields, didn't like me the SCH or the SMN get our pets out

I ended up just leaving and taking a penalty.

[Aramina]

The funny part is i did not even do that, which is what has me laughing i had another method, but people love to judge and jump to conclusions due to reading failure, but it's fine, i had to remind my self there how this forum works. so don't worry about it.

Not being able to read your mind is not a failure on our part. You were asked, quite nicely, what you meant but chose to give a snarky ass reply instead. If you can't manage to articulate yourself correctly that is a fault on your part, not ours.

[KalinOrthos]

We spawned in, the tank ran off, since i took 3 seconds to put protect back on, took a drink to prepare for the dungeon, as i don't like stopping in the middle of a run for errands.

tank obviously died shortly after because i am no where near him,, asked why i didn't heal, ignoring the fact i was not anywhere near him to heal, i asked him why he just ran off like that, ignored me, dps called be bitter because i made a comment about him running off. tank told me to shut up and heal (putting it simply, he said something a lot more insulting) so i left. and told them to replace me with kick because i logged off, as im not healing rude arse holes.

But yea, im the bad guy i guess, for some reason.

You are. If you can't see the reason, that's on you.

[Aramina]

But yea, im the bad guy i guess, for some reason.

Not THE bad guy, but rather *a* bad guy... or not even really... "not a good guy" would be more accurate.

1) That's great that you got a drink at the beginning so you wouldn't have to in the middle, HOWEVER, you should have gotten your drink before you queued.
2) You should have left the dungeon. Does it suck to take a penalty when you feel you did nothing wrong? Sure, but unfortunately that is the legit option.

[Vidu]

Wasnt "rude" or "hostile' this seems to be people defending the idiots, so my mistake for sharing. i'll be sure to just lay down and accept the beating in the future.

And im sorry, my apologies for doing things like getting a drink before i heal people through a dungeon, instead of doing it in the middle of it, and other things humans do, totally my bad on that.

i'll bet you're the type of person to watch someone get robbed and you'll point the figure at the victim saying it's your fault for carrying money.

No, I'm actaully not. But I am the type of person whos able to accomodate to other people around me.
Having a drink is indeed a totally human thing to do but priotizing something like that over a group-effort? Yeah, no. Its something that can easly be adjusted or, shocking, I know: wait til after the dungeon. If you cant wait 2 minutes (to have that drink during downtime in the dungeon) or 20 minutes (til the dungeon is finished) you're placing yourself in serious danger of dehydration it seems to me. Please take better care of yourself in that case - and dont hold out with having a glass of water until you enter a dungeon A normal, healthy human being can go 20 minutes without drinking. Please note that I'm not saying to neglect your health over a videogame but as always in life there are good and bad times for things. Having that drink during the "sensible time" at the start of a dungeon instead of 2 minutes before, 2 minutes later or enjoying a cup of lovely tea right after seems rather shortsighted and self-centered to me.

You've made a very wrong assumption about my personality there - I'm actually the person who hates to make other people wait for me, because I dont feel I'm entiteled to do that. We're four (or maybe seven) people in that content. We all confirmed we were ready when we entered the dungeon. Is that moment, when everyone said "Hey, I'm ready to do this!" really the time to be like "yeah, you know what? I guess I'm not ready after all - suddenly I'm SO thirsty I need to have a glass of water right NOW!"
Same with cross class skills, really - I was leveling scholar lately and protect only gets sloted in at the start of a dungeon. I got so mad at myself each time I forgot to do that before the dungeon started (something I could have very easly done after all) and had to do it in the dungeon, making everyone wait for me.

After all: Dungeons are always a group-effort. That tanks behaviour might not have been the best but neither has yours. And the attitude you're showing here only makes me happy that we dont share a data-center... you werent "beaten" or anything - the tank just wasnt patiented enough to wait until you were finally done with all the stuff you should have done before you entered the dungeon. Because thats the point here: you werent getting that drink before you were healing the group through the dungeon - that would have been: Drinking a glass of water, then accepting the duty (or, as healer: drinking, then queueing). You decided to have that drink at the start of the duty when everyone rightfully expected you to be ready.

Personally I expect everyone but specially tanks and healers (thanks to our insta-queues) to be ready at the start of a dungeon to immidiatly run that dungeon - everything else: Bathroom break, glass of water, smoke (please dont ;_, food, feeding the cat... should have been taken care of before. If you commit to run a dungeon, I expect you to have done your best to make sure that you'll fully available during the next 20-30 minutes. Sure, "emergencies" happen, maybe a real one, maybe just someone at the door. No problem at all! But everything you can take care of - including glasses of water and sorting out skills - should be done before.
If it makes me a jerk that I expect you to do your stuff on your time and not on group-time... so be it.

[Squintina]

jesus, i forgot how ignorant this forum was.

It sucks that the tank left without checking. It's very rude because like you said, maybe you need to do things (maybe not get a drink, could have done that before queuing), but checking cross class skills, or what if you were a person whose computer takes a little longer to load. That tank should have waited at least a few seconds. I don't know if the DPS in your party really deserved to have their run delayed because of one inconsiderate tank, but I guess they should have stuck up for you as well.

So I'm totally with you that the tank was rude.

However, you really didn't need to tell that person earlier to just think about it when he was asking a legitimate and non-insulting question. It's not obvious to him (I know I'm still not sure what you meant by it.) and you do seem to be very quick to throw words like "idiots" and "ignorant".

Typically when people are quick to throw insults, it's either because they themselves are ignorant, or they're just really upset. I'm hoping for you it's the latter. Calm down for an hour or two, then come back and reread everyone's posts and try to see it from their point of view. It's ok to disagree, but there's really no need to jump at insults.

[Aramina]

I don't know what your problem is and why you're defending rudeness but you're clearly in support of that type of attitude. i'm done talking or responding to you.

1. Not sure what world you live in where people are rude for expecting people to be ready that said they were ready (by clicking to enter the dungeon), but not rude to expect that they should somehow instinctively know that you weren't actually ready.
2. No, you didn't. You forced them to kick you.

I take back what I said about not being "a bad guy"... you are making it pretty evident that you probably were.

I don't support the tank's rudeness, but that does not mean I automatically support you.

Newsflash: YOU WERE BOTH RUDE!