Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Seryne]

I'm not sure what it is but as I've been leveling RDM I've been getting stuck in dungeons where healers don't heal me. If it was in like Sohm Al up, fine I'll take the DPS loss and heal myself. It never is though. I've straight up died because the healers don't bother healing me even though I'm right by them. They'll heal everyone else but won't even toss a regen or shield my way. It's honestly getting a little frustrating.

[LelenaLena]

I got my first Heavensward Extreme Primal from Mentor Roulette this weekend, being dumped into a Bismark EX 5 minutes in progress. I joined just as they were finishing off the carapace of the first phase. The tanks were clearly both new, as when the two colored adds spawned, they each picked up the add matching their color. They kept them separated, but if you are hitting an add with the same color, it hastens the instant-wipe mechanic. We didn't even get one add down to 50% before wiping.

In the second attempt, both tanks attempted to tank the exact same add, leaving me, the WHM, to tank the other add. We actually did make it to the second phase on this run, but lost when both tanks, the other healer, and 3 of the 4 dps did not leave the whale's back. (The 4th dps survived, because they were not getting on the back in the first place).

In the final attempt, we lost our DRG in the first phase, as they tried to jump onto Bismark before it had been pulled to the island. I ended up tanking one of the colored adds in the transition, and then made sure to tell everyone when to get on and off the whale. We successfully killed it on the second tether, when I commanded the other melee DPS to LB for the kill.

Now then, how many of you remember the 8-bit Titan animation that SE put out a few years ago? In it, the DRG fell off the platform, and spent the entire fight dead, only to win the Nightmare mount in the end and immediately bail. Well, Bismark's birb dropped, and the DRG who spent the entire fight dead won the whistle, and immediately bailed the party.

[Rivxkobe]

Royal Menagerie. The Paladin didn't use Passage of Arms during the ult, and had sword stance on, saying that she was the off tank. (sigh)

Confused. The pally doesn't need to use Passage on the ultimate, healers can heal it with ease. That being said it's nice when they do.

Paladin OT is amazing right now. With sword oath on they are doing it right. What's the problem here?

[Avatre]

Now then, how many of you remember the 8-bit Titan animation that SE put out a few years ago? In it, the DRG fell off the platform, and spent the entire fight dead, only to win the Nightmare mount in the end and immediately bail. Well, Bismark's birb dropped, and the DRG who spent the entire fight dead won the whistle, and immediately bailed the party.

In regards to this...back before Heavensward was released and I was farming the EX primal ponies, when I was going for Leviathan I had something similar. He was down to about 30% HP, but I got knocked off. Won the Levi pony when it dropped that run too.

[VanilleFang]

So was running Expert Roulette with my brothers yesterday and we got Temple of the Fist. Ugh, I kind of dread getting this dungeon because of the following:

Our team was RDM (bro), SAM (bro), WHM (me), and PLD. Pop in, cast Protect, etc. Tank pulls everything up to the first wall. Now I don't mind this so much since the wall doesn't drop adds until it is destroyed. Depending on certain factors it can be a little weird to heal (DPS focuses wall over mobs for example) but it wasn't too bad this time. AoE spamming made quick work of everything and we cleared the wall. SAM was nearly dry of TP though but tank sprinted off and dragged everything to the second wall...

I seriously hate this pull. None of us are massively over leveled, and one of DPS was running low on TP. The issue was, also, I had barely any CDs left after the first pull... we ended up wiping when the tank took a shit ton of damage and I didn't have Bene or Tetra. I really hate this pull because the wall drops mobs as it takes damage. I think it drops like 9 or something total? So on top of already have a pile of trash that he pulled to the wall, we were adding more as we did AoE.

The thing about this pull is that I have never seen it go fast. It's also been a slow burn through the massive group of bodies. I don't personally think it achieves anything except push the healer and tank to their limit.

Whatevers we should be fine if we try again, or maybe pull anlittle slower, right? Nope, tank instantly left. I was like "wtf? Seriously?" Yeah, I don't get why tanks do that but... then my brother (SAM) pointed out that the tank had used Intervention on a mob (he had it macroed so it told us who he targeted)... So we ended up wondering if the yank left due to salt or shame. Maybe he thought we would tell at him for pulling so big?

Well whatever the reason we decided that while we waited for the replacement tank we would see how far we could go with just the three of us. We pulled one group at a time and eventually made it to the boss. We attempted the boss, and almost got it, but we ended up wiping (i think i screwed up, cant remember though). After that we just left the instance, since it would just be quicker to requeue.

[Cenerae]

Came back from a 3 month break after convincing myself I'm able to drop the money for Stormblood (which I'll be getting on Friday, woo). In the meantime, friend gave me the free week and I got my extra 15 days, and am toying with an alt to refamiliarise myself with the game before I go back to my main gal here.

I had a weird run today with said alt while doing levelling roulette as a BLM. Had one of those prima donna tanks that nobody likes, who got into a tizzy because the melee DPS accidentally facepulled a pack. And then proceeded to do the usual things one expects of such a tank, like deciding they weren't going to help anymore because the DPS in question did not apologise and/or worship the ground they walked on.

The weird part? It was Sastasha normal. Why on earth would you try to hold the group hostage in a dungeon where you literally do not require a tank to finish with ease?

The guy kept at it through the stretch of trash leading up to the Couerl and clearly wasn't happy with our decision to ignore his tantrums and go on without him. We ended up booting him as he elected to lock himself out of the second boss fight on purpose. Got a DRK replacement who mass pulled the rest of the place for speedy AoE clear.

[Arkenne]

Temple of the Fist. Ugh

Fortunately you can have a total control of this first pull you hate so much as both DPS are your bros. Since DPS don't benefit from AoEing packs of less than 5 targets, you could ask your bros to ignore the wall until the first mobs are dead. The Tank alone will not be able to destroy the wall by the time both tigers are dead anyway.

It should save you a headache :/

[VanilleFang]

Fortunately you can have a total control of this first pull you hate so much as both DPS are your bros. Since DPS don't benefit from AoEing packs of less than 5 targets, you could ask your bros to ignore the wall until the first mobs are dead. The Tank alone will not be able to destroy the wall by the time both tigers are dead anyway.

It should save you a headache :/

Oh, yeah in that current situation it was fine. I don't always run it with my brothers though, and I've had a few runs where the DPS focus the wall first and I'm like "???".

It's a bit harder on the second pull though, as it's sometimes hard to keep your AoE attacks from hitting the wall, and it drops Mosslings just from taking damage.

[Moonfish]

Since DPS don't benefit from AoEing packs of less than 5 targets,

Did this change with SB? When I first started playing people told me to AoE groups of 3 or more. Have I been wrong following that advice this whole time?

[Arkenne]

Did this change with SB? When I first started playing people told me to AoE groups of 3 or more. Have I been wrong following that advice this whole time?

Well, maybe I went too far with the absolutes. At 3 I would do a mix between single target and AoE. But I wouldn't go full AoE unless 5 or more.