Lackluster yellow strip gear

[Sparhwk]

The fact that yellow scrips aren't gated weekly should be a big enough hint that this isn't going to be your 4.0 'bestest specialist' gear.

Level 70 crafted gear isn't gated either. By that logic your logic it shouldn't be the best atm either.

[RichardButte]

Level 70 crafted gear isn't gated either. By that logic your logic it shouldn't be the best atm either.

...And an entire set of L70 crafted can be acquired in a day, and fully melded if you're willing to throw enough money at it.

[Kabooa]

Level 70 crafted gear isn't gated either. By that logic your logic it shouldn't be the best atm either.

And it's not. Full melded crafted gear is currently better than yellow scrips so...

Good job on that one?

[Kabooa]

So I feel this needs to be clarified.

This is so far the exact pattern we've seen in Heavensward when they first introduced this system. Given that they don't have to play the 'data analysis' game this time around, this likely means new recipes, new materials, and actual -gated scrips- in the Savage patch.

It is more than likely those -gated scrips- will be where your notable set upgrades will come from.

The -yellow- scrips are mean t to serve as a non-optimal but affordable baseline.

"But crafted gear is chea-"

Factor in materia.

[Maku]

"But crafted gear is chea-"

Factor in materia.

Even factoring in materia, the amount of yellow scripts that are needed is crazy. Unless you gather all your own mats, and take a life time to get all of the needed yellow scripts that way, you are probably looking at nearly the same cost as fully melding a craftable set ya?

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Scrip gear is not and never was meant to be top-of-the-line.

It is, and has been since the introduction of red and blue scrips, intended as a means by which a casual player can gear their crafters.

That it is far out of whack cost-wise with the crafted set is immaterial. That it is not a gated currency is also immaterial. It was not and never has been meant for the people who would get everything done in a day.

It is meant for the people who would turn in a few Collectibles a day, and slowly build up to it, because that's all their playtime allows.

[Kabooa]

Even factoring in materia, the amount of yellow scripts that are needed is crazy. Unless you gather all your own mats, and take a life time to get all of the needed yellow scripts that way, you are probably looking at nearly the same cost as fully melding a craftable set ya?

TLDR: Get the weapon, pentameld the crafted set.

Varies by server, I imagine. I'll use Gilgamesh's market as an example then, with Goldsmith.
Left side cost: Approximately 1.2 million
Main Hand: 50k. (This is so negligible that you can argue to use this over the scrip just on cost alone, so you're right on this one)
Rightside: (We can skip this as it's fairly comparable to Ironworks and no scrip accessories are available yet)

Right now I have a starred craft (Imperial Jade Necklace) for 67 scrips. I need 3700. I will need to craft 56 of these. If I ignore the weapon, I only need 2400 (35)
Imperial Jade necklace is : 2 Imperial Jade, 1 twinthread, 1 Almandine, 1 Resil (attribute)

For the sake of the argument, I will use completed components only instead of the much more efficient baseline material / crafting.

Gilgamesh's current prices on these are
Imperial Jade: 13,000 (Need 112 or 70)
Twinthread: 9000 (Need 56 or 35
Almandine: 3,800 (Need 56 or 35)
Resil: 3000 for the most expensive. (Need 56 or 35)

Price with weapon: 1,456,000 (jade) + 504,000 (Twinthread) + 212,800(Almandine) + 178,000 (resil) or about 2.4 Million.
Price without weapon: 1,500,000

It's not looking good for the scrip set, certainly, but it's worth noting that Weapons have much higher stat caps than the armor, so even if you go 2.4 million in for a full set including the weapon from scrips, materia prices to get the crafted weapon (50k) up to snuff is going to be steep.

*runs back and forth between Rhalgr and marketboard*
Scrip weapon: 433 / 232
Crafted weapon: 405 /217

To match the stats of the scrip weapon you need 28 craft, 15 control

Scrip chest: 371/116/4
crafted chest: 348/109/4

For the chest, you need 23 / 7 (Much less steep, certainly)

Forgive me for not doing all of them, but I don't have that kind of patience

So, weapon has one guaranteed slot. Depending how deep you want to go into the rabbit hole here, but for the sake of cost efficiency, we'll only use 5's.

Craft 5s (+11): 70k
Command 5s (+7): 90k

To match the scrip weapon, pentamelding with these sill be 3 Craft 5s, 2 Command 5s. On average, that's going to be 1 Command (90k) for green slot, 4 Command (360k) for the second slot, 7 Craft (490k) for the 3rd slot, 9 Craft (630k) for the fourth slot, and 12 Craft4 (48k) for the last.

Let's not even get into using rank 6 to make them 'better' instead of on par.

So that sucks, let's look at the chestpiece (Two green slots at least on this one!)

You can easily catch up with the chest with two Craft 5s and a command 5. So 1 COmmand 5 (90k), 1 Craft 5( 70k) and on average 3 Craft 5s (210k). 370k on top of the money you already spent to buy this.

Every other piece is a little cheaper, but you're still using a minimum of 1 Command 5 and 1 Craft 5 on each piece (160k) on top of the craft.

So 2.4million for a full left side for one craft vs ^^^^ that time, and then the weapon for every craft.

Short story: Get the weapon, pentameld the white set.
Edit: I amended the weapon melding to include Craft 4s at the end since it technically hits '28' to break even.

[Sparhwk]

And it's not. Full melded crafted gear is currently better than yellow scrips so...
Good job on that one?

I'm wondering why you wouldn't at least meld the 2 free slots into the gear by deault. 70HQ is easy to make and with just the 2 free meld slots using V's, which are easy to obtain now, you outdo the yellow scrip gear.

So yeah good job I'm still correct. 70HQ is eaiser to craft, eaiser to obtain and even "factoring in materia" it's better without needing to overmeld.

And going by your previous post with the math you kindly did, the yellow scrip gear is far more time consuming and expensive to obtain for lower stats. Point still stands. Yellow scrip gear is not for casuals. It's under powered, overpriced and requires far more time/money to obtain. It needs to be reduced in cost if its' meant for casual crafters or stats boosted or stats removed if it's just glamour.

[Kabooa]

As Roth pointed out, the yello scrip gear is for a different player (The single / maybe up to three crafts kind of player), not the omnicrafter. The omnicrafter gets the most benefit of a penta melded set (8 crafts for one) and only has to deal with the headache of melding weapons, or simply doing scrips (Which are more than comparable to the cost.

It's also worth noting the presented scrip cost I used is like, the worst way to do it. (Buying components instead of making it yourself)

It would take me a couple hours, but the gil cost for the 3700 yellow scrips for me would be closer to around 100 - 150k.

[Derf]

I don't recall having to pay anything, besides gear repair, for yellow gatherers' scrip gear. Am I still in the disciple of land forums?