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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    currently we have: PLD = best OT damage & support, WAR = best mitigation, DRK = best MT damage (maybe, not even sure)

    imo what we should have is PLD = best support, lowest damage, WAR = best mitigation, mid damage, no support, DRK = best damage in either spot, minor support
    this would mean that teams can take either a more risky approach with more damage or a safer way with more support
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    Warden Azem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    currently we have: PLD = best OT damage & support, WAR = best mitigation, DRK = best MT damage (maybe, not even sure)

    imo what we should have is PLD = best support, lowest damage, WAR = best mitigation, mid damage, no support, DRK = best damage in either spot, minor support
    this would mean that teams can take either a more risky approach with more damage or a safer way with more support
    I'll remind you that that lowest damage is what got Paladins benched the last expansion. You don't need a super defensive tank all the time, and so putting anyone in that spot where they have super low damage amongst all the tanks? That's a guaranteed way to have them looked upon badly just like last expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'll remind you that that lowest damage is what got Paladins benched the last expansion. You don't need a super defensive tank all the time, and so putting anyone in that spot where they have super low damage amongst all the tanks? That's a guaranteed way to have them looked upon badly just like last expansion.
    This argument pops up a lot and fails to see the big picture.

    Lowest damage only benched PLD because DRK and WAR also had better utility. Path, Reprisal, and Delirium are now gone, so this is no longer the case. Damage was only king in Gordias. After Gordias, DRK/WAR was primarily meta because Delirium+Reprisal+Path was just better than PLD's 150s recast party shield and the Halone debuff which rarely did anything for anyone but the tank.

    If you had another Midas or Creator raid tier and PLD was dealing lower damage now, you'd still see hc groups take it for prog, and casual groups take it to cover poor mistakes, because WAR and DRK no longer offer that insane party mitigation.
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