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    This is mathematical.
    The scalings change with each expansion, so whatever was true for HW has no bearing on what's true for SB.
    Leaving speed aside for a moment (hard to quantify, as usual), dervy and a few other folk has a reddit thread with preliminary numbers (quite a bit of data, but they wanted finer points for the interpolation).
    These numbers showed that, for SB, just for a pure dps perspective, DH>>Det>CH.
    This makes sense because crit scaling got cut down to a third (you need like 66 points of crit to grab the 1% crit chance).
    We have nothing in our kits that further augments crits and nothing that benefits from it (we don't get a Firestarter for sure if Fire crits, for example), so all crit gives is raw dps.
    Therefore, as far as we know at the moment for SB, Det might be the better choice, for our secondary stat range.
    (Can't find the thread :/)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    This is mathematical.
    The scalings change with each expansion, so whatever was true for HW has no bearing on what's true for SB.
    Leaving speed aside for a moment (hard to quantify, as usual), dervy and a few other folk has a reddit thread with preliminary numbers (quite a bit of data, but they wanted finer points for the interpolation).
    These numbers showed that, for SB, just for a pure dps perspective, DH>>Det>CH.
    This makes sense because crit scaling got cut down to a third (you need like 66 points of crit to grab the 1% crit chance).
    We have nothing in our kits that further augments crits and nothing that benefits from it (we don't get a Firestarter for sure if Fire crits, for example), so all crit gives is raw dps.
    Therefore, as far as we know at the moment for SB, Det might be the better choice, for our secondary stat range.
    (Can't find the thread :/)
    The thread on Reddit? Yeah... go read the comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    The thread on Reddit? Yeah... go read the comments.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...o_stat_values/
    This is the thread for reference.
    I read the comments... what exactly should stand out here?
    He has some ultra minor corrections and people asking about crit for BRD/MNK due to their job mechanics and some talk on tenacity VS CH.
    You need to be a bit more specific...

    (Note that dervy posted this. The guy that does the stat weights every two patches or so. I tend to be partial towards believing him, and having glanced over his numbers, it seems to look aight).

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    For BLM, there has been an almost negligible difference between weights based on a dummy rotation and weights based on a theoretical rotation of one GCD. Even though buffs mana tick stuff ought to be accounted for, these don't change the spell speed weight significantly. Nearly all BLM damage has to come from weaponskills, and therefore benefits from spell speed about equally.
    This is true for any job. The reason we've always been able to get away with speed stacking is because of our infinite mana pool. That, and our dots frequently clip due to Thundercloud (and you can swap out T3 for something else (B4) in your UI cycle if the timer is still very long on the current dot).
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    Last edited by Galvuu; 07-12-2017 at 05:50 AM.

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