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  1. #11
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    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Parisstilton View Post
    Personally I think it would be better for you all to learn to use the blacklist feature that nature gave you called 'ignore. It's really simple to use and won't waste a butt load of cash that SE could use to make fun stuff for all of us.
    One of the people on my blacklist stalks me in real life, and not just in game. Do I just ignore that? Blacklist is a feature to combat harassment, and there are many different reasons that people need to use it. I think improvements to the blacklist feature are crucial.
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  2. #12
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    Venoshock's Avatar
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    Char Mae
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    - It should automatically remove them from any of your social lists (friends, FC, etc), and remove you from theirs.
    - It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa.
    Um..no. Everything else you mentioned I 100% agree with and some of the things you mentioned, the blist already does, but these two? absolutely not lol and for obvious reasons such as if someone is easily offended - (and there's loads of those snowflakes nowadays), I sincerily hope you don't mean the blisted person should be forcibly removed from the FC, and just straight up No to the last one 'It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa'. I can't join a party because someone in it who isn't even the leader blacklisted me is in it? lolno, if they have a problem with me, then they either stay or gtfo. I ain't going anywhere.
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    Last edited by Venoshock; 07-11-2017 at 04:02 PM.

  3. #13
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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    One of the people on my blacklist stalks me in real life.
    Perhaps you should get the authorities at that point?
    You could ignore/report them if they act that ridiculous in game though. Don't let an emote piss you off.
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  4. #14
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Venoshock View Post
    Um..no. Everything else you mentioned I 100% agree with and some of the things you mentioned, the blist already does, but these two? absolutely not lol and for obvious reasons such as if someone is easily offended - (and there's loads of those snowflakes nowadays), I sincerily hope you don't mean the blisted person should be forcibly removed from the FC, and just straight up No to the last one 'It should prevent them from being added to any party you happen to be in, and vice versa'. I can't join a party because someone in it who isn't even the leader blacklisted me is in it? lolno, if they have a problem with me, then they either stay or gtfo. I ain't going anywhere.
    Eh, I think the friends list thing is viable and that it should also extend to search info. I've heard quite a few cases of people being stalked around by the person they blacklisted and the ingame mods taking a good long while to deal with it when it was reported for harassment. I don't think wanting to be left in peace makes someone a special snowflake and some people are legitimately so far out of their wits end in some of these situations that the whole 'they'll leave not me' is literally not viable. Kudos to being strong and all, and frankly I'd handle it the same way, but not everyone is and some of the nut jobs in this game aren't so easy to shake.
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  5. #15
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    Reaperking386's Avatar
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    Ertai Spelldragon
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Report them if they continue to harrash you through other means and the rep will investigate it. black listing is doing what it is intended for.
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  6. #16
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
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    While this could be combatted by logging out on the site/forums, here's 2 more things that could be considered:
    - It should also auto-hide all forum posts from the other party for each person.
    - It should hide each other's lodestone profiles (if they try to access it, perhaps throw up a custom 403 Forbidden error? Web developers will know exactly what this is about).

    Sure, more determined stalkers will find ways around it, but this could also help. Another thing I would suggest is if you change your character name or change character realm... ISSUE A NEW LODESTONE CHARACTER ID! For people that change name or transfer realms to avoid a stalker, this lodestone ID being the same makes it easy for them to follow you. I have read the stories about this.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  7. #17
    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Masekase Hurricane
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    ISSUE A NEW LODESTONE CHARACTER ID! For people that change name or transfer realms to avoid a stalker, this lodestone ID being the same makes it easy for them to follow you. I have read the stories about this.
    This just makes it easier for people who cheat. FC leader takes all gil sells FC house and then transfers.
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  8. #18
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    This just makes it easier for people who cheat. FC leader takes all gil sells FC house and then transfers.
    But it also has been used by stalkers to follow people who change name or realm to escape said stalkers. It's happened to my friends (though thankfully not to me). I personally believe protecting people from stalkers matters more than a cheater getting away with the gil. I'm not someone who has done it myself (nor will I ever), but the implications of harassment can be a lot more severe. There's no clean-cut answer on how to stop both unfortunately, so I feel therefore that protection from harassment should come first.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  9. #19
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    Pariselle Stiltonne
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    One of the people on my blacklist stalks me in real life, and not just in game. Do I just ignore that? Blacklist is a feature to combat harassment, and there are many different reasons that people need to use it. I think improvements to the blacklist feature are crucial.
    And I am sorry this is happening to you. I have had it in rl myself so I do understand stand. However it should be dealt with by the proper authorities not patched over by a games developer. And have you ever thought that if they no longer can see you in game that it might actually make them worse in real life? This is exactly what happened to me btw.
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  10. #20
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    But it also has been used by stalkers to follow people who change name or realm to escape said stalkers. It's happened to my friends (though thankfully not to me). I personally believe protecting people from stalkers matters more than a cheater getting away with the gil. I'm not someone who has done it myself (nor will I ever), but the implications of harassment can be a lot more severe. There's no clean-cut answer on how to stop both unfortunately, so I feel therefore that protection from harassment should come first.
    Sad thing is that an officer in an FC I would absolutely HATE to lose this valuable tool for the very reason that it helps keep an eye on the problem children on my server. We have one person in particular who name changes and race changes almost every single month, causing drama in their wake whenever they find the few people who haven't committed their lodestone to memory. They've scammed people out of real money, harassed and stalked people in game, and were one of the primary examples I used in my last post for why we need more stringent matters when it comes to blacklisting because the mods REFUSE to ban them in spite of evidence of their actions. Without their lodestone half the server would never know where they were at all and that goes for several other bad apples. It's a sticky situation sadly. :/
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    Last edited by Enla; 07-11-2017 at 06:16 PM. Reason: SE seriously GIVE ME MORE CHARACTERS TO WRITE WITH.

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