BLM should be the SAM of casters.

[Daralii]

Is Samurai really this overhyped? I gotta try it out before the nerfs.....

It does a lot of damage, but otherwise contributes nothing to the group. This was the stated goal of the class's design. People are still surprised that it parses well.

There should definitely be changes to the casters, since RDM is currently top damage on top of mobility, Embolden, Verraise, and a heal that actually scales off of int(unlike Physick...), but they need to be very careful with SAM if they want to avoid a repeat of HW Monk.

[Sigiria]

Is Samurai really this overhyped? I gotta try it out before the nerfs.....

I was curious and did the math adding how much 10% of the party's damages for the time the trick attack was on the boss during Susano for the second best nin, minus the balance buff. he stand at ~4060dps. which is actually around the same a very good SAM does. So despite what people seems to believe, SAM is in no way overpowered.

Problem with the RDM currently is that he does more dps than any other mage in actual fight, while also having a very powerful utility for the team. That don't make a lot of sense.

[LunaFaye]

I think we should keep it like that, I love having the ability to raise, heal, and do a good chunk of dps while I am at it. Reminds me a bit of SMN 3.x. Nobody forces you to play blm, and nobody forces anybody else to play SMN or RDM. It was your choice to pick that class. Does SMN need a buff? absolutely. Should BLM get maybe some more team abilities? Sure why not, but in all fairness, I don't think we need to fully revamp all of these jobs or call one more horrible than the other.

[Kiyashi]

Hmmm I think I see what the problem here is. BLMs need a little motivation to get better numbers. Let me help with that.

[Lemuria]

I think the important thing to understand is that BLM has a much better arsenal of tools for AoE damage than both SAM and RDM, and as this is one of their strengths this is where they should excel. Trying to make them the 'Samurai' of mages doesn't make a whole lot of sense, because they're very different in their goals.

Do I think BLM succeeds in being the master of AoE? Not quite. It's definitely strong, but it could use some enhancements. My personal preference is to ditch the damage loss on AoE for subsequent targets, like it was before, but only on BLM and SMN (keep it for other jobs that have this restriction). Sure, it lead to parties where they'd just gather big crowds and nuke, but if people are going to do it anyway (and they still do), might as well let them do it properly.

[Dortharl]

We'll see what happenes in the future, but SE really only considers PVE balance in regards to competitive content, BLM damage right now isn't bad it's behind the new classes but as we learned from NIN SE has a tendency to over tune new classes and then balance them later. I'll be very surprised if SAM and RDM don't get nerfed in future patches. As for BLM I think as Spell Speed increases their rotation will make sense, the fact that their has been no real improvement after the introduction of new skills is an issue and the new enochian mechanic feels clumsy at best.

I'm glad people are posting numbers rather than anecdotal evidence and until SE decides to make AoE damage important in competitive content, being king of AoE is a useless title.

[Slirith]

Is Samurai really this overhyped? I gotta try it out before the nerfs.....

not really overhyped, more about it being high single target but in exchange for having no utility besides goad/slash debuff if that even counts.

[Remus]

I don't understand why people say SAM is overpowered. They offer nothing to the group except DPS. They need to do a lot more to compensate for that. The main reason MNK wasn't taken for raids was because even though they did the most DPS due to no good utility the difference wasn't big enough to warrant bringing one but now with SAM the DPS they do makes people consider maybe bringing one because the DPS they do is far above the others.

[Janhyua]

Hmmm I think I see what the problem here is. BLMs need a little motivation to get better numbers. Let me help with that.

I cant help but laugh every time i see this picture

[Waliel]

It does a lot of damage, but otherwise contributes nothing to the group. This was the stated goal of the class's design. People are still surprised that it parses well.

Funny, because BLM is the most selfish job in the game right now with zero innate utility. SAM has 10% slashing at least.