New SAM questions

[Ryaz]

Actually I havent tried on a dummy or anything just doing the math on what the skills says.

Midare cost 60 kenki plus 20 of kaiten plus 5 of the losing hit u would being doing if u use shiten instead (OCD)
And the dmg is 720*1,5 of kaiten = 1080 (also que should be resting something here because u are losing 1 hit u would be doing if u used shinten instead, and im not even counting basic attack) lets say that hit is 150 (the most basic attack a SAM have).

So the formula for Midare dmg/kenki would be (1080-150)/(60+20+5) = 10,9
Shinten dmg/kenki would be 300/25 = 12

So it looks like Shinten is more effective than Kaiten Midare.

Where are you getting Midare costing 60 kenki? It costs absolutely no Kenki to cast.

[Clouse_Cleyra]

Where are you getting Midare costing 60 kenki? It costs absolutely no Kenki to cast.

Midare cost 3 Sen (Getsu Ka Tensu), using Hagakure (or w/e is the name) transforms that on 60 kenki.

[Ryaz]

Midare cost 3 Sen (Getsu Ka Tensu), using Hagakure (or w/e is the name) transforms that on 60 kenki.

Ah, yes... I realized that afterward. Hagakure is on a 40 second cool down and it's often used to reset Sen when when mechanics mess up your buffs, so it won't always be available.

If Hagakure is up and you use it on 3 sen, it's a slight damage buff. If it's on cool down, Midare wins by a long shot.

[Adriosh]

Hagakure vs Midare should be looked at as an opportunity cost/gain in a situation where you have 3 sen + haga available if you are able to dump all sen generated into shinten plus gain a GCD the gains will be greater then using the 3 sen to midare and using haga on anything less then 3 sen or putting it off until next available 3 sen (8gcds later)