Titan-egi

[magnanimousCynic]

I remember the odd old days where Titan-Egi was a viable tank choice for Ramuh Extreme before he got nerfed.

What a glorious time that was.

[Cabalabob]

I don't know much about SMN but I think that giving Titan-egi a provoke might wind up being way too good in raids. How tough is the thing at cap? The idea of a pet soaking a tankbuster or what have you seems like it would have a major impact on raid mechanics.

He has about 38k hp at level cap in i293 gear, which is around the same amount as a level 60-65 tank, he also doesn't have a tank stance and only 1 20% mitigation CD, so he might be able to do this once in an emergency if the OT is dead and probably wouldn't even survive it, but he wouldn't be viable to replace an OT, nor would it be any kind of dps gain since the smn would be giving up some dps to use Titan and if they had to keep swapping pets it would tax their mp.

[Claviusnex]

I don't know much about SMN but I think that giving Titan-egi a provoke might wind up being way too good in raids. How tough is the thing at cap? The idea of a pet soaking a tankbuster or what have you seems like it would have a major impact on raid mechanics.

He's got about 43.5K at ilvl 309. As was mentioned he has practically no mitigation. At this ilvl I'm finding he is dead about 3/4 of the way through fighting a 70 lvl B Rank. He will be down quite a bit of HP with groups of three and usually dies if there are more with SB content. Since he won't get aggro back if he is summoned again I will summon one of the other egi's to finish the fight. Running Duty Roulette before SB I would occasionally use Titan to tank trash pulls when waiting for a real tank. With Sustain I could keep him up long enough for us to kill the mob. He would be dead in no time on a boss. I don't think a provoke would hurt anything as Titan is not viable for anything other than trash in synced dungeons. A provoke method would help in the open world but I still think it would be better to bring back Sustain as it can be used across all egi's and aligns well philosophically with the Summoner being a pet class.

[NovaLevossida]

I've only really found use for him back in 3.x for unsynced low-manning ADS where we'd open with Titan tanking so he'd eat vulnerability stacks, and then the tank would provoke after he died since the healer couldn't heal through the stacks otherwise.

Theoretically, if I found some open world use for Titan (like soloing a FATE boss or something), without Sustain, what's the point?

[Neela]

You can't use it for end game raid
You can't use it in a dungeon
You can't use it on extreme primals

Make him DPS egi for once and for all.

i kinda disagree here. not everyone is focusing on endgame (raid/primal farm) - titan was used to be a pve support for those who were on their own on fates and open world areas – yes. just adjust his enmity potecy and give him a kind of self regen (or sustain for ourselves) than he's back on track and useful for his purpose again. we don't need a third dps egi... where do you wanna settle him in between of ruda (range) and ifrit (melee) anyway?

though I agree that he's nearly worthless in his current state. : /

[Mature]

though I agree that he's nearly worthless in his current state. : /

Seeing that Egis are growing bigger now ("bahamut is the first step it seems") I would mind spawning a bigger Titan and let him tank for 14secs. Like become an actual tank. Then again this might change the whole dinamics of the fight. Not sure tbh how they can make titan relevant cause I can guarantee you that the majority of SMN including myself either spawn him for hunts , fates or just for posing. There's not real use for him tbh

[Sunako]

Titan egi still pretty good for soloing stuff. You can tank with titan at first and once it become low hp, summon bahamut and tank the boss yourself. After bahamut duration is over titan return with full hp. Let titan generate 50% aggro and use lucid dreaming half your own aggro so titan can get aggro back. Drain is really useful skill in solo content that heal your own hp and it is not even huge dps loss compared to ruin if you keep dots and pet attacking whole time.

Here i soloed titan extreme.

[Neela]

hmm that sounds kinda creative - honestly i like that idea to use him in combination with Bahamut a lot... o.o

yet another "timing" to master on this cls than hmm... could be problematic if Titan can't stand long enough until Bahamut proc is ready (lesson 1) than switching enmity between smn & egi can be hard (lesson 2) but hell yeah - like I said I like that a lot, will try that on fates. at least for single target fights this can be really funny... wonder if enmity switching in over–mobbing would be to handle as well. Have you tried that too Suna? ^^

never the less thumbs up for bringing this up :3

[Claviusnex]

Not sure tbh how they can make titan relevant cause I can guarantee you that the majority of SMN including myself either spawn him for hunts , fates or just for posing. There's not real use for him tbh

Saying the majority of Summoners is making a pretty big assumption. I use Titan a fair amount in the open world and quite heavily when I'm leveling. Anecdotally based on my server I would say most Summoners use him while leveling and for B rank bosses. As neither of us have access to the real numbers all we can voice is our opinion based on what we do. Not for the Summoner base as a whole.

I also use Titan to farm some of the older dungeons that are on the edge to be able to run solo. I've also used him in groups to run the trash while waiting to replace real tanks. With the changes he has become pretty much useless for this or anything else. As I run minimal end game stuff at the normal levels the nerf impacts my play quite a bit. So while it might not impact your playing style it does impact many other player's styles and the possible resolutions really shouldn't matter to you as they have no impact what so ever.

[Mature]

Saying the majority of Summoners is making a pretty big assumption. I use Titan a fair amount in the open world and quite heavily when I'm leveling.

I guess titan is only useful for levelling and doing old content. I personally like to be able to actually use it on dungeons , raid , xtremes

So far just feels pointless once u crossed or have leveled