Just a thought on Elezen.

[DreadRabbit]

Show me some good catgirls and au ra girls that don't look the same. 90% of them are the same. It's part of why I don't want to be the same as everyone else but if you play that and it's your thing, you may do so by all means. I just don't find any of them unique.

I really don't think you have room to say that when Elezen only have two faces to pick from (as shown in the post above). So while there are less Elezen females running around, they are far more likely to look like clones of each other because you essentially have less choices in faces.

Au Ra, on the other hand, have a different problem: we have 4, very different facial structures to pick from that all look great. However you can't change the horns that come with each face. And the horns are a very prominent part of the character's design. And so when creating one, you basically have to decide: pick your favorite horns? Or pick your favorite face? (Unless you were lucky and got the exact combo you wanted from the get-go). Because the horns are more noticeable, it's a big red-flag as to which face was used in the design process, regardless of what other details you put on your Au Ra. Look at the "show your Au Ra" thread: there are dozens of unique Au Ra girls using the same faces. But if you were to see them all run around in the game world? You'd just see the horns, then just assume they're the same as the other players who picked those same horns.

This is why rather than bashing each other's preferred races, we should be working together for more character customization in general. I actually really like female Elezen's proportions, and what Highlander ladies and Fem Roes I have seen are all drop dead gorgeous. However those three races only have two (or even one) face that looks good at all. The only reason female Elezen are unique right now is because less people play them. And less people play them because they just have less options offered to them when creating one. And that's sad. Elezens need more love and options.

[Rokke]

And less people play them because they just have less options offered to them when creating one.

Big eyed tiny waifus will always be more popular than tall/muscular girls, even if cats/lizards all had only 1 set face in character creation they'd still be super popular lol

[DreadRabbit]

Big eyed tiny waifus will always be more popular than tall/muscular girls, even if cats/lizards all had only 1 set face in character creation they'd still be super popular lol

This is true too. I have to admit I prefer playing shorter girls, but I'm 5'2" (157 cm I believe?) so it's nice to watch a small girl destroy Gods and big buff characters. But I do have a soft spot for Elezen: I nearly made one after seeing their dance. Awkward giraffes deserve love.

Also curse threads like these and the "show your ___ " threads. I am now in character creation just making different characters now >__>

[FallenArisen0990]

This is true too. I have to admit I prefer playing shorter girls, but I'm 5'2" (157 cm I believe?) so it's nice to watch a small girl destroy Gods and big buff characters.

Is it sad that my 0 size Au Ra, is taller than me irl? XD

[DreadRabbit]

Is it sad that my 0 size Au Ra, is taller than me irl? XD

Not at all embrace your height! Short ladies unite and kick booty <3

[Rokke]

This is true too. I have to admit I prefer playing shorter girls, but I'm 5'2" (157 cm I believe?) so it's nice to watch a small girl destroy Gods and big buff characters. But I do have a soft spot for Elezen: I nearly made one after seeing their dance. Awkward giraffes deserve love.

Also curse threads like these and the "show your ___ " threads. I am now in character creation just making different characters now >__>

I’m 5’1” and my main is a max height male Au Ra xD I don’t fault people for picking popular races. People are gonna play what they like to look at regardless of what others think- as they should! If anything, it just makes me appreciate the less used combos when I spot a cute one run past me in-game :}

[Lunafreya]

I really don't think you have room to say that when Elezen only have two faces to pick from (as shown in the post above). So while there are less Elezen females running around, they are far more likely to look like clones of each other because you essentially have less choices in faces.

I tend to really disagree that Elezen are only unique cause people play them rarely. A bad elf is easy to spot and a well made one is very unique, imo. There's really a lot to put into the character creator and I just dont see that for the au ra females and Miqote specifically. It could be the horns or it could be that everyone and their mum is using the same faces. Even with different faces I can still tell that many Miqote and Au ra females look like carbon copies. While it is true that we Elves have less face options... I think it really goes beyond that. I've honestly never seen an exact copy of my elf. I've seen some close but never exact. So in a way I do feel unique because the model of my character hasn't been seen. I do receive feedback on my character saying that she's really well done and I'm cool with that. I know Elezen aren't everyone's cup of tea and that's totally fine. My point is that I dont think we can use faces to compare. I've seen a lot of creative Elezen that look unique on here and sometimes in the duty finder.

As for your other point, we can certainly work together as a community to get more options but Yoshida already said it himself that more customization isn't a plan for the future. But hey there's no problem with trying like you say but I don't really think it will lead to anything major mostly because people will want x new race like Lupin or Viera which imo, is just boring to waste dev resources on. I'm not really bashing other races. I'd call it more disappointment than anything but I like to go out in the overworld and look different.

[Katsuragi_]

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That's because those two races have very distinctive features easy to set apart at a simple glance. An elezen face has basically all normal human features excluding the ears.
Youre most likely being unconsciously biased, specially by comparing your own character's face with other Elezens and since you don't really seem to care too much about the other two races not really paying too much attention to them. Not to blame, mind you.

[Lunafreya]

That's because those two races have very distinctive features easy to set apart at a simple glance. An elezen face has basically all normal human features excluding the ears.
Youre most likely being unconsciously biased, specially by comparing your own character's face with other Elezens and since you don't really seem to care too much about the other two races not really paying too much attention to them. Not to blame, mind you.

Not really. I've made a female Au ra through retainer and they do quite frankly look the same. Same with miqote. I've tried to make one look different from the general people that play them and nope it's pretty impossible.

[DreadRabbit]

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Funny, I've tried making an Elezen and run into the exact same problem. Small world we live in, right? That's kinda the point people are trying to make to you: we all have a bias.

Anyyyway, judging from all the posts since I've last checked, it seems pretty clear: most of the people (keyword: most) playing their respective races are the ones that actually enjoy them as we got them (for the most part), and those who aren't and are wishing we had different designs...aren't playing those races. Not surprising :P Personally I think the Elezen are kick-butt as they are and super pretty, just wish there were more faces. I also find it super interesting that there's a crowd clamoring for more "beast-like" or non-human races, yet here in this thread there's a group wanting to make Elezen look more human, but with elf ears. Just goes to show you can't please everyone.