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    Eugene_Kirigaya's Avatar
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    Kyoran Shirayuki
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    As the game's balance currently stands, I find it hard to recommend Monk. Ninja does equal or greater damage when played by an equally skilled player, but has much more meaningful utility, and Samurai destroys it in damage output. If they bring up Monk to be capable of inflicting about 92.5-95% of the damage inflicted by an equally skilled Samurai, then I would say go for it.

    (Separately, I would also say from my perspective having played it for years, the changes from SB in adding Riddle of Fire and RNG-based skills makes the job feel a lot less satisfying to play than it used to.)
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene_Kirigaya View Post
    As the game's balance currently stands, I find it hard to recommend Monk.
    That shouldn't really be the case. MNK's dps should be higher than NIN's by 5-10% assuming the same gear and skill level.
    If a NIN is doing more damage then the MNK is doing something very wrong or it's 10 ilvl lower.
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    Laflama_Blanca's Avatar
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    Orbei Arulaq
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 70

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene_Kirigaya View Post
    As the game's balance currently stands, I find it hard to recommend Monk. Ninja does equal or greater damage when played by an equally skilled player, but has much more meaningful utility, and Samurai destroys it in damage output. If they bring up Monk to be capable of inflicting about 92.5-95% of the damage inflicted by an equally skilled Samurai, then I would say go for it.
    Some misinformation here. Monk deals more damage than Ninja in a group. It's close, and certainly much closer than HW, but to say an equally skilled player will do more as Nin is simply incorrect according to the data we have from fflogs. Additionally, according to fflogs, Monk does about 94% of a Samurai's dps (75 and 90th Susano percentiles). This is exactly where you're saying they should be. They also bring more utility than Sam.

    Mnk is in a pretty good place right now, honestly. Play both and go with the one you find more fun. You should be welcomed by groups as either.
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