Have a little empathy for those whose jobs got crushed.

[missybee]

Stormblood is the first time that I have played a healer as my "main," so I am coming from a relatively uneducated perspective (prior to, I mostly just used it in roulette / 24-mans).

That said, I am curious as to why people are calling for a nerf to AST. It feels strong to me, but not broken. Is it because SCH feels so weak in comparison?

I think this is a good thread that comes off with a much better tone that the majority of "complaint" threads, however. I definitely empathize with people who feel like the identity / usefulness of their job has been usurped. Personally, I was a bard main up until Wanderer's Minuet, and then I switched to summoner. Seeing the summoner changes that were due to come with 4.0, I said EWW GROSS, and decided to do SAM and AST.

It can be a pretty severe bummer.

[Malzian]

2.x PLD: "HAHAHAHAHA WAR isn't viable! It's not even a real tank, it can't do as much damage as us or mitigate as well as us! How pathetic! We only have you along because two paladins would hinder the LB building!"

And the wheel turns and turns...

[Lollie]

Drg maintaining eye stacks need to be separated from the botd timer. Having them only charge while timer is up is ok, but even when you start with the full 30 at the start of a fight break and bump it with a fresh botd for the extra 15 its not enough to maintain it.
Mnk needs an increas to chakra proc % bad, and needs brotherhood to be able to stack like eye of the dragon.
Smn, wth were they thinking? change the older skills back to how it was seriously.
Whm feels like its in a good spot.
Working on trying the rest

[Liii]

Pets need help. Pet responsiveness and animation delay causing ghost damage or missed damage in general is a huge issue. If I cast ahk morn at 3 seconds on timer and it still doesn't go off that is a problem:/

[GDFletcher]

When they stop asking for my class to be nerfed, then sure I will show some sympathy their class deserves. I have levelled GLD as my main from arriving in Jan, I have run through dungeons with my closest friends up until the 60s when I was doing Anima. The low levels with no real ability to tank was brutal and warriors would simply waltz around high and mighty. Then you get the ability to tank at 40 by that time you are wasting more mana than you can regen by having to Flash to keep the agro from AOEs that Sum and BM threw out.

Then I got into the Anima thing and then realised that "outsider" doesn’t want to run a dungeon at a comfy pace, they expect you to pull 6 billion mobs and those in another dungeon even though their class can't do shit about another other mob apart from the one they are on... So again, mana went flying out of the window. Then to top it off Magic damage just literally obliterated us.... which meant that in certain 8-man content a PLD was effectively a door stop!

So, 4.0 comes out and they re-tweak us able to run older dungeons a little better but the new dungeons a hell of a lot better and then the salty popcorn came out of nowhere demanding that PLD be nerfed because OMG they are OP .... seriously!

I am sorry your class didn't get the love you expected but you can't sit there and bitch about a Tank class that as been neglected from 2.0 onward....

[FaileExperiment]

I really only think MCH needs emergency surgery. SCH is not that bad people just freaking out, but some love would do it good.

MCH actually deals pretty similar DPS to bard, maybe slightly lower. The problem is BRD also has a crapton of party buffs and the MCH has one...which was nerfed..and is embarrassing to even talk about now. They could hotglue this by making hypercharge vulnerability go from 5% to like 15 or 20% or something.

at this point, as a MCH main, I'd really love to forego the party utility and just get more DPS. Leave the support to the Bards, where it makes sense. Let MCH be the ranged physical powerhouses.

[kokorro]

at this point, as a MCH main, I'd really love to forego the party utility and just get more DPS. Leave the support to the Bards, where it makes sense. Let MCH be the ranged physical powerhouses.

I'd like to see MCH be more of a DEBUFF vs a Party buff.

[FaileExperiment]

I'd like to see MCH be more of a DEBUFF vs a Party buff.

That might be cool too, though I lean towards not making it a support class at all. But either way it needs a dps increase to stay on par with BRD at the very least, but ideally RDM'ish numbers.

[Derio]

IMO MCH, SCH, DRK, WAR, and maybe monk needs review

[Vallamaria]

Hyperbole aside, SE please fix the broken classes in 4.05 with some care and respect.

Sadly SE is guaranteed to show absolutely zero care, respect, or even the tiniest shred of consideration when rebalancing things. Since it seems their so-called idea of "balance" is to nerf the most desirable Job of a particular role so deep into the ground that it becomes utterly worthless for the rest of the expansion. Meanwhile they buff the least desirable Job of a role so bloody sky high that it ends up vastly outclassing every other Job choice of that role! They keep doing rebalancing in extremes so they never actually solve the balance problems at all. Instead they just shift the problem around.