If you leveled Conjurer expecting to be a black mage type character.. Can you swap?

[Bowen]

Are you certain that THM is associated with both? Looking over the moves and lore, it seems THMs are only connected with the aspect of death. I confess I don't really know all that much about them though.

Yes, I am sure, go to Ul'dah and go to the temple that isn't the THM's guild. Talk to the NPCs and do some of their quests. They DO in fact worship the Nald (Life) aspect of Nald'Thal.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Would have been smarter to make con whm/blm and THM Redmage

would have been smarter, until yoshi stated will be only 1 job to 1 class for now. Since don't have much sense releasing white without the black, and cnj got the only aoe cures and 3 raises, you should have see it incoming

[Firon]

Yes, I am sure, go to Ul'dah and go to the temple that isn't the THM's guild. Talk to the NPCs and do some of their quests. They DO in fact worship the Nald (Life) aspect of Nald'Thal.

You said it right there the other guild you are talking is not the guild you(we) join. We are the EVIL THM's not the good ones get that through your head.

[Bowen]

You said it right there the other guild you are talking is not the guild you(we) join. We are the EVIL THM's not the good ones get that through your head.

No, I understand that. What I mean is that THMs worship both Life AND Death. And that WHM could easily have been set in the Temple of Nald (I keep forgetting it's actual name its Milvaneth Sancracum or something IDK)

[Gramul]

Yes, I am sure, go to Ul'dah and go to the temple that isn't the THM's guild. Talk to the NPCs and do some of their quests. They DO in fact worship the Nald (Life) aspect of Nald'Thal.

Well...yeah, but the THM's arn't in the Nald temple. They're in the Thal temple.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Yeah, I'm glad it's 1 job per class. Otherwise they'd end up running out of Jobs making it useless to release future classes themselves. Red mage wouldn't make much sense anyway as they are swordsmen of a sort.

jack of all trades, which thaumaturges (at their core) are not. However they are to a degree into the arcane arts and it makes sense for them to take up the mantle of black mage even if they don't have access to elemental spells. Arcane magic for example would be a good substitute, as well as perhaps elemental spells of a different name, but with the same effect. Could also give them AM I guess. >: But as Conjurers are more in line with the elements, to take away all of their offensive spells without rewriting their entire history would be really ridiculous.

[Bowen]

Well...yeah, but the THM's arn't in the Nald temple. They're in the Thal temple.

No, they are in both. O_o
Thaumaturges occupy both of the temples. Just look at the NPCs they have THM weapons equiped O_o

[Firon]

Well...yeah, but the THM's arn't in the Nald temple. They're in the Thal temple.

It just kills me people keep trying shove the life temple down our throats when they very well know the players join the Death THM guild......

[Bowen]

Yeah, I'm glad it's 1 job per class. Otherwise they'd end up running out of Jobs making it useless to release future classes themselves. Red mage wouldn't make much sense anyway as they are swordsmen of a sort.

jack of all trades, which thaumaturges (at their core) are not. However they are to a degree into the arcane arts and it makes sense for them to take up the mantle of black mage even if they don't have access to elemental spells. Arcane magic for example would be a good substitute, as well as perhaps elemental spells of a different name, but with the same effect. Could also give them AM I guess. >: But as Conjurers are more in line with the elements, to take away all of their offensive spells without rewriting their entire history would be really ridiculous.

Pretty much, If they leave the lore as it is, then CNJ getting WHM would make no bloody sense. For one, they would lose Elemental spells, the very things that define what a CNJ is. Oh, and they are probably going to have to change the cities that you find their guilds in since, why would THMs who are now the elementalists live in a desert and not in the forest where the power of the elementals are greater?

[Holland]

It would have been nice to know who will get summoner as well, to me that's more critical because if there's no beastmaster job, I'm going summoner. I would expect conjurer of course.

A completely new class, I believe Tamer or Beastmaster will be the class for the Job Summoner. While the class will only be able to tame/charm existing fiends in the field, making his arsenal limited; The Summoner, as the name implies, will simply summon beasts/aeons/GF's from the aether ;x