Victory is based on the number of healer in the alliance.

[Etrius]

Healers should either get nerfed on their potencies, or be removed from FL entirely.

I've seen matches with 8 healers in a single team. Seriously... why?

[silverlunarfox]

Healers should either get nerfed on their potencies, or be removed from FL entirely.

I've seen matches with 8 healers in a single team. Seriously... why?

Because heroes never die.....EVER

[Khalithar]

Healers should either get nerfed on their potencies, or be removed from FL entirely.

I'd rather see Battle High/Fever removed from FL first, then we can talk about giving healers the nerf they deserve.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I'd rather see Battle High/Fever removed from FL first, then we can talk about giving healers the nerf they deserve.

There's nothing wrong with Battle Highs or Battle Fevers. Almost every other competitive game has some sort of killstreak bonus, whether it's points, special abilities, or increased damage. Put enough focused fire on a BH/BF and they'll go down like anyone else. Unfortunately, so few know what they are or WHY they have that symbol and players actively discourage active combat in lieu of objectives, so we get to run wild.

[Khalithar]

Snip

Well for one thing just because other games have them doesn't mean we need them also, it's not a good argument and in my experience it just exacerbates the issues with premades (something not really in the scope of this thread, so I digress) but I think you missed the nuance of my point and I realized that I worded it badly and for that I do apologize.

Specifically, Etrius was calling for the removal/nerfing of healers in PVP, something that I absolutely support mind, I think PVP would be infinitely better if healing as a concept was drastically reduced or eliminated entirely. However, IF they did remove healing, then BF/BH would become way too powerful as a result. So if healers do get nerfed in PVP (again, something I support) then BH/BF have to go also (and maybe those item boxes in feast? I dunno).

[Theodric]

There's nothing wrong with Battle Highs or Battle Fevers. Almost every other competitive game has some sort of killstreak bonus, whether it's points, special abilities, or increased damage. Put enough focused fire on a BH/BF and they'll go down like anyone else. Unfortunately, so few know what they are or WHY they have that symbol and players actively discourage active combat in lieu of objectives, so we get to run wild.

It rewards people for sniping the last hit on an enemy player. So certain jobs - especially ranged and those with DoT effects - benefit far more than those who are more melee focused. I'm leveling SMN at the moment and get battle high unintentionally just by throwing DoT spells on random targets and playing it safe.