Lets stop fighting SE and work with them. What are your ideas?

[Inuakurei]

If they want the DPS tank meta gone ALL THE TANKS NEED A MASSIVE REDESIGN.

I agree, which is why I want this thread to be about ideas on how to do that within feasible limits. I don't think there's any way we are going to come out of this without some sort of rework in either our gear, stats, or abilities.

The reason that some tanks are comfortable "ignoring their main stat" as you say is because HP is not our main stat, any more than MP is a healer's main stat. More HP does not make you easier to heal. More HP does not "mitigate" damage. The reason why people can max-min like this is because they look at the incoming damage, determine what the safety threshold is, and work around it.

I disagree that VIT is not our main stat, but I agree that its very lackluster and something needs to be done about it.

VIT is indeed our main stat, its why gear made specifally for us have the biggest number next to VIT. With that being said, its true that extra VIT does not help and that is the issue. Either tweak VIT to make make it more desirable, or change our main stat to something else (more difficult).

[Reynhart]

I disagree that VIT is not our main stat, but I agree that its very lackluster and something needs to be done about it.

Like I said, if you want to kill the STR vs VIT debate and the DPS stance meta in one go, you can :
- Remove VIT from accessories completely
- Give us STR accessories back
- Make mobs hit harder
- Make tank stance more powerful

No more gear choice and mandatory chastising.
No more tanking out of tank stance.

[VenKitsune]

I disagree that VIT is not our main stat, but I agree that its very lackluster and something needs to be done about it.

VIT is indeed our main stat, its why gear made specifally for us have the biggest number next to VIT. With that being said, its true that extra VIT does not help and that is the issue. Either tweak VIT to make make it more desirable, or change our main stat to something else (more difficult).

Seems like you quoted the wrong person there buddy, i didn't say that.

[Inuakurei]

Seems like you quoted the wrong person there buddy, i didn't say that.

Yup, sorry. I fixed it. I'm terrible at this.