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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    I don't really see it. if we go by Normal Omega all tank busters are magic based. That gives DRK Rampart, Shadow Wall and Dark Mind. On top of that you have TBN for every tank buster. You can't beat WAR with all it's CDs but you are better than PLD.
    PLD only has Rampart and Sentinel + Sheltron.
    In physical fights DRK and PLD are almost equal when it comes to mitigation. The difference is that Sentinel is stronger than Shadow Wall.

    imo DRK only needs a buff as OT but so does WAR. Both fit the MT spot more than PLD does. Though PLD is really ahead as OT afaik.
    I'd really like to see some real numbers when PLD actually has to use it's utility kit. Using Clemency yields no damage. So does PoA unless you use it when there is some long casting time and you can't target the mob anyway.
    Paladin also has passage of arms for another 100% block mitigation. Though this could come at a dps loss depending on how long it needs to be kept up. Of course dark mind is also a dps loss if the tank buster requires dark arts in addition the advantage of course being that dark mind can be used more frequently.

    Also paladin does have more passive mitigation. Doing nothing but keeping bulwark on CD will mitigate a nice number of attacks.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 07-07-2017 at 11:29 PM.

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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Paladin also has passage of arms for another 100% block mitigation. Though this could come at a dps loss depending on how long it needs to be kept up.
    ya but it's also a block. you can't combine it with sheltron if additional mitigation is needed. they have the same effect. PoA would only out do Sheltron if you take a multihit to the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    ya but it's also a block. you can't combine it with sheltron if additional mitigation is needed. they have the same effect. PoA would only out do Sheltron if you take a multihit to the face.
    This is true, we'll have to wait for the exact timings of tank busters to determine if it will come down to this. But this actually puts paladin at a large advantage when it comes to multihit tankbusters. If we had multi hit physical tankbusters requiring layering two mitigations to survive, then paladin is definately at the advantage, dark would need to save two mitigations to achieve the same thing (rampart and shadow wall). And in that case poa and sentinel is still more mitigation. But this is super hypothetical at the moment.

    However, such large damage I think the player base will likely just ultimate CD their way through it, and if it's frequent enough to require tank swaps then it will become less about individual mitigation and more about the party utility, and the most utility comes from double paladin lol.
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    Last edited by Chrono_Rising; 07-07-2017 at 11:50 PM. Reason: Grammar/spelling