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    Quietus needs a dark arts potency boost and a meatier sound effect too. It feels so unsatisfying atm. Like you only do it right now because you run out of MP or are gonna cap blood otherwise and it's 10 more potency that abyssal.

    If they boosted the potency a bit and gave it a punchy sound effect it would feel great to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    Quietus needs a dark arts potency boost and a meatier sound effect too. It feels so unsatisfying atm. Like you only do it right now because you run out of MP or are gonna cap blood otherwise and it's 10 more potency that abyssal.

    If they boosted the potency a bit and gave it a punchy sound effect it would feel great to use.
    It's 40 more at a baseline, 90 more when DA'd.

    o.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    It's 40 more at a baseline, 90 more when DA'd.

    o.-
    50, not 90.

    I'm with Tarkus---I think the DA potency should be 240 so that its worthwhile to use DA on packs of 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    50, not 90.

    I'm with Tarkus---I think the DA potency should be 240 so that its worthwhile to use DA on packs of 3.
    Unless the tool tip is incorrect, Abyssal Drain does not receive additional potency when DA'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Unless the tool tip is incorrect, Abyssal Drain does not receive additional potency when DA'd.
    I guess I thought he was talking about Quietus.

    AD 120pot
    Q 160

    DA+Q 210

    DA is only worth it on a Quietus if there are at least 5 enemies (5 x 50 extra potency = 250 pot, 10 more than 2 x ADs which is roughly the same MP as DA) so I thought they were discussing whether or not Quietus was ever worth DA.

    That's why I said I would like to see DA-Quietus become 240 potency so it would make sense to use even on packs of 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falar View Post
    I guess I thought he was talking about Quietus.

    AD 120pot
    Q 160

    DA+Q 210

    DA is only worth it on a Quietus if there are at least 5 enemies (5 x 50 extra potency = 250 pot, 10 more than 2 x ADs which is roughly the same MP as DA) so I thought they were discussing whether or not Quietus was ever worth DA.

    That's why I said I would like to see DA-Quietus become 240 potency so it would make sense to use even on packs of 3.
    I posted the incorrect value. It's 40 more than abyssal as a GCD but it's just not worth using Dark arts on.

    On 5 enemies, DA Quietus is a 600 potency value oGCD attack that costs 2,400 mp.
    On 5 enemies, 2 abyssals is worth 1,200 potency total. To date there are no mob packs that are short lived enough that you can't drain your MP bar on abyssals.

    The only situation in which you want to DA your Quietus:
    Not in Grit
    Blood Weapon is on
    Dark Passenger is on CD
    Missing MP % is greater than # of targets * 5% (IE: you're missing 40% mp after Dark Arts and there are 6 targets, which would recover 30% mp total).
    You would otherwise generate more MP than your max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackironTarkus View Post
    I posted the incorrect value. It's 40 more than abyssal as a GCD but it's just not worth using Dark arts on.

    On 5 enemies, DA Quietus is a 600 potency value oGCD attack that costs 2,400 mp.
    On 5 enemies, 2 abyssals is worth 1,200 potency total. To date there are no mob packs that are short lived enough that you can't drain your MP bar on abyssals.

    The only situation in which you want to DA your Quietus:
    Not in Grit
    Blood Weapon is on
    Dark Passenger is on CD
    Missing MP % is greater than # of targets * 5% (IE: you're missing 40% mp after Dark Arts and there are 6 targets, which would recover 30% mp total).
    You would otherwise generate more MP than your max.
    Actually, I am retarded. I don't know what I was thinking, I was only trying to get to 240 but not thinigng about the targets.

    For DA-Quietus to draw even with 2 x AD, it would need an eye-popping 400 potency. Man, that is just bad design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    It's 40 more at a baseline, 90 more when DA'd.

    o.-
    You still never want to use Dark Arts on it. Why spend 2,400 mp on a 50 potency oGCD aoe attack. It's worse than dark passenger. Just drop two more abyssals.
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