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  1. #251
    Player
    Buff_Mama's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Buff Mama
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 64
    The Royal Managerie is not that hard. I easily one shot it being paired with randoms in ilvl 290 job gear. The difficulty is fine. The community needs to work hard to teach new players mechanics.

    I'd say not to nerf difficulty, but perhaps give a boosted tome bonus for first timers. This might incentivise people to stay and help.
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  2. #252
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    TielF's Avatar
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    Sep 2015
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Mother Tiel
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I agree with all the folks saying that everything that's thrown at you in this fight you should know about by now. You really should know what a stack marker is, that you split to break chains etc... Even when you get hit by, say, the tail, if you're healed up beforehand you won't die. It's just a matter of people having to know how to play their job and do mechanics at the same time. If you can't handle a basic level of competency like that and apply a good attitude to keep a party together, why are you playing the game?
    It's a good final boss fight, and enjoyable. But when I run into bad players trying to do it in trial roulette, it does make me a bit salty because I can't understand why people wouldn't put in a basic level of effort when they're playing a game that you have to play with other humans. Why would you let 7 other people down by not trying to improve yourself the whole journey up to this point so that you can handle the fight? That's something I don't understand.
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  3. #253
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    Zaine_Lionheart's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Zaine Lionheart
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    I honestly dont understand legitimately why the cries for nerfs almost EVERY MECHANIC has been done before minus the green wind bit... all in story based dungeons/trials you HAD to have cleared to even GET TO THAT POINT. Im sorry it doesnt need a nerf... Im honestly tired of people crying for nerfs. How are you guys gonna get better if they keep dumbing things down... seriously stuff needs to be gradually increased in difficulty and should have kept up with that pace its the only way the player base will get better. If you keep crying for nerfs you wont get better in fact it shows how LAZY you are because you refuse to improve yourselves. Stop killing the game its exactly what the game DOESNT NEED
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  4. #254
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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Character
    Xetsu Mitsuhara
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove View Post
    Just did that fight, wasted 1hour(30min wait time, 30min fight/wipes) and no clear... and have to say.... Why the darn a ->STORY<- fight have an uber ->SAVAGE<- mode fight?! /screams angry D:< This will just cause people stop playing and AGAIN: locked out behind content, cant do new stuff we got today, THANKS! ..cant even buy better gears with tomes ether lmfao! I Never played Savage mode in this game nor I want to. <-< they are making me toxic and salty to other people! If I want play a difficult cheap game that makes me crush a wall I play Dark Souls with my feets. <.< Nerf this crap at once! Story fights should be for ->CASUALS<- not Elitists! >->
    You compare this Trial to a Savage mode yet you've never done savage? Lol ok.

    All I have to say is some of you people, especially those who are vets need to step it up.
    You done all the previous content, HOPEFULLY because a lot of Shinryu's stuff is a mix up between previous Primal's.
    It's a dodge party for the most part, with a few stack ups and a DPS race,
    nothing we haven't seen before. It's ridiculous. This is easier than pre-nerf Steps and Steps NPCS actually told you what to do the entire time.
    I hope SE doesn't nerf this because the "baby's first time" crap needs to stop, especially since we're this far into the game now.
    We honestly need to stop the roflkeyboard junk now.
    TLDR: Git gud.
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  5. #255
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    Mibgestalt's Avatar
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    Character
    Keiten Shinkugan
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 60
    For what it's worth, I loved the difficulty of this fight. My PUG group one-shot it a few days into the expansion, luckily enough, but the whole thing felt exhilarating due to the difficulty. I understand it can be frustrating to wipe, but if you are a "casual" player, then isn't this pretty much the end of your journey? Shouldn't it be a fitting challenge for you to overcome?

    It certainly felt like a final boss to me.
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  6. #256
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    Coconut's Avatar
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    Character
    Tsuki Fenix
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 90
    ya'll are crazy, yoship is just gonna tell you guys in the next PPL to get good.
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  7. #257
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    LinaDoodle's Avatar
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    Character
    Lina Doodle
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    It probably will get nerfed like The Steps of Faith did. Every piece of content in this game gets nerfed after a while so people who aren't good at it can pass (if they didn't get carried already). We're used to this by now I think.
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  8. #258
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    GigBeoulve's Avatar
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    Character
    Gig Beoulve
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    honestly if you have played through ARR, Heavensward and Stormblood you should have no problem with these mechanics by now. and if you payed to level your class and skip to stormblood you should go back and do all the fights and learn them.
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  9. #259
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    Sayboar's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Saber Kitteh
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 70
    For what it's worth, I did not find this fight challenging or difficult, but it was still fun and enjoyable
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  10. #260
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    People don't ever seem to realize that content gets harder over time naturally. All the best players in FFXIV have cleared this fight, and most of them will go out of their way to never do it again. The overall DF skill level of people trying to do it is constantly decreasing.

    Also "You should know all these mechanics by now" isn't necessarily true for new players who aren't going to have seen mechanics from every optional fight, or remember from fights they had to do once. And then there's stuff like the targeted giant cone AoE is indicated by a red arrow marker, which is usually used for stuff like circular fireball attacks. Although the exact same mechanic is in the Zenos fight at the end of the Ala Mhigo dungeon, but it's indicated by a tether there. So they might think they have to spread out and end up hitting everyone with it.
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