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  1. #111
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    Furious's Avatar
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    From what I've read and seen, people do PoTD just to level their jobs to about 60 from 51-60 runs.
    As someone who has done that a few times and overall stopped because the boredom, it taught me nothing as
    mobs die instantly. The boss takes maybe a minute tops. I never heard anyone go out their way to do PoTD
    to learn their Job...News to me.
    The few minutes you spend on the boss incorporates the entirety of your abilities to that point, rather than the fast blade > savage blade > repeat rotation of paladin to 40 or the ... you get the point.

    What little there is in PotD is infinitely more than what exists elsewhere.

    Nobody goes out of their way to learn their job at any point during the leveling process, it happens naturally. It happens better when you have access to all parts of said job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolys View Post
    No my argument is that both are a journey and part of the game. It does not matter if leveling process is different than gearing process. When you start leveling more classes, both are about repeating (or "grinding") the same dungeons over and over.
    In fact it's even more repeatitive for the gearing process as you will just do over and over the same few end-game instances, while leveling you can revisit about every different dungeons and areas from level 15 to 70.
    Of course it matters. At max level you are actually playing your class, in relevant content, normally with groups of people you know. While leveling, you are playing half a class, often by yourself, with the only aim being to get to the end.

    As I was saying in my previous post, FF XIV is a Story based RPG where you level up your character classes. If leveling should be irrelevant then it should be completely removed from the game and every one should have the same level (or no level at all) from the start. But for me that would a different game, not anymore a game has been designed and sold as "leveling up" game.

    As for considering a hybrid version where you can optionally buy job potions from the Mogstation, while keeping the leveling process intact. I am against it as well because it directly change the experience and fairness of the game based on how much one can spend on the Mogstation.

    For me every player should fairly level up the same way. So either everyone can choose to freely skip leveling (which will change the base concept of the game and probably render lower area even more desertic), or nobody.

    The only compromise I can understand is for new or ancient returning players who directly wants to play the last released content or join high level friends. But for that, the one unique potion existing is enough.
    A great many people don't play MMOs for the story. If you enjoy it, more power to you; nobody is forcing you to use jump potions. For most people, the process of leveling involves literally repeating PotD 80 or 90 times.. and that's it. There is no story aspect to repeating PotD 90 times per job for every job you want to level. There is no journey; it's exactly the same experience from the first run to the last run.
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  2. #112
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    UnstablePersonality's Avatar
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    Character
    Athena Nightreaper
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    How about no...encountered someone today in qarn at level 60, wouldn't even hit targets marked with a 1 despite being asked too (PS he said he paid for his job That's a thing now?)
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    Friend/recruitment code for special items and things (use before paying first sub) RACN78W5 (updated) info on items here http://sqex.to/Cz9 code is entered via the mogstation.

  3. #113
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    Spawnie's Avatar
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 80
    1 is enough imo.. its insanely easy to lvl jobs to 60 compared to how it used to be all we had was fate farm or dungeon spams lol
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  4. #114
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Roegan View Post
    How do you know those people used a jump potion?
    One job at 70 and still leaf next to the name. Either that person grinded that one job to 70 in a very short amount of time or they bought it. Seeing how bad they were and how they had no real idea about the job and about quite some mechanics I tend to lean towards the second option. The same with the others.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 07-06-2017 at 07:30 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #115
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Even if you don't have "time" to grind, you can simply just do your roulettes daily and little bit of MSQing and you will hit level rather quickly. I have done 1 single dungeon aside from daily roulettes for Monk and I'm almost Lv69 already. This took me 1.5 week to accomplish (already got Red Mage to 70 from doing MSQ).

    So while it isnt the fastest way it still pretty decent. Combine that with Challange Log every week
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  6. #116
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    Charlayy's Avatar
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    Too Spooky
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Sorry but jump potions are a mistake because its allowing even worse tanks, dps, and healers to jump up to where they do not know mechanics and drag down the rest of the group. Mechanics they would of learned over time leveling the class normally.

    It also means that in the future classes will need to be simplified even more to take into account these people do not know how to play their classes. The same route that WoW went down.
    Yeah more bad players yay. Poor WoW.
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  7. #117
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    Too Spooky
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhaill View Post
    Well that's the joke lol.
    You think people won't buy it though? o:
    Oh theyll buy it alright.
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  8. #118
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    You would not really completed anything if you just throw money at the game to do it. But that does seem to be gamers these days.
    Holy s***. You got owned in first page!
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  9. #119
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    Too Spooky
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    I want to clear Omega Savage without touching my keyboard!
    Count me in too!
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  10. #120
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    Holy s***. You got owned in first page!
    I don't really see what you talking about but w/e and don't really care what they said anyways gotta have thick skin to hang out here.
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