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    HyperSMB's Avatar
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    Crystal Skye
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    Halicarnassus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    After playing more and getting better and better at it, I am convinced those of you who have awful winrates are just bad.

    I freelance, play solo, routinely get put on just about every team and still pull 40% winrate with under 25% loss rate and since I switched to tank I am near 67% winrate.

    That is pretty good EXP.

    You know the only common factor in all my matches...me. Same in your games.

    Equally, I have have been counting AFK players and it averages about 5 or 6 per match, not much different from before.

    All in all it's been a positive change with the average person trying more to get objectives.

    Small tip to help you guys win: Instead of being the 21st DPS in your alliance, play a tank or healer for 95% of the match, then return to base using "Return" and switch to the class you want EXP on before it ends. You will be way more useful to your team and still get EXP on the class you want.
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    Last edited by HyperSMB; 07-06-2017 at 11:38 AM.
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    Nixxe's Avatar
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperSMB View Post
    That is pretty good EXP.
    That's a reasonable claim if you are entirely unaware of the other sources of XP in the game and/or incapable of doing basic arithmetic. Even with a 40% win ratio, you're still getting about 20% less XP than you used to overall and are wasting your time if you're in there before level 65. Palace itself wasn't even that good from 50-60. Its primary benefit was fast queues for DPS and/or a change of pace from dungeon grinding for tanks and healers. That anything post 60 gives less XP than Palace, which doesn't scale past 59, is a pretty good indication that it doesn't give good XP.

    I did some more Frontline yesterday. I don't see any change. My team is still just running around aimlessly and would rather attack second place than get ice or attack first place when they're already engaged with the other team. There are still AFKers. My contribution still doesn't matter.

    Edit: Also, I believe the buffed the Wolf Mark gains for all places. I don't recall seeing over 1000 before, which was the reward for winning, yet I got 1050 for second place yesterday.
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    Last edited by Nixxe; 07-07-2017 at 04:43 AM.

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    Korihu's Avatar
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    Korihu Yanhu
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    That's a reasonable claim if you are entirely unaware of the other sources of XP in the game and/or incapable of doing basic arithmetic. Even with a 40% win ratio, you're still getting about 20% less XP than you used to overall and are wasting your time if you're in there before level 65. Palace itself wasn't even that good from 50-60. Its primary benefit was fast queues for DPS and/or a change of pace from dungeon grinding for tanks and healers. That anything post 60 gives less XP than Palace, which doesn't scale past 59, is a pretty good indication that it doesn't give good XP.
    And that's fine isn't it? They said it's "pretty good exp" not that it's the best exp. And that's how it should be! Making a PvP mode the prime way to level for PvE is stupid in of itself, PvP should just be a fun way to level on the side to break the monotony. That way everyone wins! People who absolutely despite PvP don't feel 'forced' to play it because dungeons and fates is better, and people who enjoy PvP get to enjoy it with the exp bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korihu View Post
    And that's fine isn't it? They said it's "pretty good exp" not that it's the best exp. And that's how it should be! Making a PvP mode the prime way to level for PvE is stupid in of itself, PvP should just be a fun way to level on the side to break the monotony. That way everyone wins! People who absolutely despite PvP don't feel 'forced' to play it because dungeons and fates is better, and people who enjoy PvP get to enjoy it with the exp bonus.
    That entire post was an explanation of why it's actually bad XP. Don't respond to something you obviously didn't read.

    Also lol @ you think everyone being worse off is "everyone wins."
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