Anyone else miss synthesis?

[Denmo]

Yes, I absolutely miss sitting around, selecting and reselecting items in my inventory space, hoping that the gods of random smiled on me today - only to see the crystal shatter.

I miss spending thousands of gil on materials, only for the purpose of grinding, and ending up only getting about 0.5 skillups from all of it.

I miss the Auction House, where it was nearly impossible to produce a profit unless you farmed the mats yourself.

I miss sitting around at the guild halls, waiting for the shop counter to open so I could get a small window of a chance to purchase much needed materials before the bot-buyers would grab them all.

I miss gathering, where I had disposable axes and pickaxes, and had to run around endlessly to find a random node where I could get maybe one or two pieces of material.

Yes, I do miss all that. /s

[Anonymoose]

Yea I do a lo.... You lose Venomous Claw, Shining Cloth, *insert rare/valuable item here*


Nope. Not one bit.

As far as I know, that still happens just as regularly due to people over-confidently bolding the odds in a damning gamble that consumes 100% of your input-items 100% of the time. Or maybe that's the trade-off... you can pansy out more often (if you can convince yourself not to neglect probability (a rare talent)) or go for the gold knowing you'll lose it all.

[Tigercub]

Current crafting is very similar to the old combat system in FFXIV - you have to focus just enough that you can't do much else while you're engaged, yet all you really have to do is repeatedly hit the same button. Why have something which is so utterly boring always demand your attention with prompts? We're just making stuff, it's never going to be that exciting no matter how much control you give players. Once the initial luster wears off it just becomes mildly annoying, you may as well offer an experience in which players must manually control their own breathing.

In my opinion synthing should be completely simple and the process mostly autonomous as it was in FFXI. The way of slowing people down and making it somewhat interesting should come in finding the right ingredients, not some gimmick just for the sake of making it 'different'.

[Denmo]

As far as I know, that still happens just as regularly due to people over-confidently bolding the odds in a damning gamble that consumes 100% of your input-items 100% of the time. Or maybe that's the trade-off... you can pansy out more often (if you can convince yourself not to neglect probability (a rare talent)) or go for the gold knowing you'll lose it all.

But see, the difference is there's player choice involved. Even if it is somewhat of an illusion of a choice.

you could keep going with the idea of illusion of choice till you realize that your entire life is an illusion. but hey this ain't philosophy.

[Kio]

I don't miss the unpredictability of leveling a craft skill in XI ^^;

I do miss, however, the roles each elemental crystal played in relation to the craft you were about to perform. XIV sorta just has a random assortment which you have to hope you have enough of on hand to do what you wish to do and doesn't feel like there's a lot of rhyme or reason for the shard requirements.

I also liked being able to gather or craft on a whim without having to change classes.

[Vawn]

Crafting may be far from good in XIV, but it is a ton better than it was in XI. Having to just hope you'll get any "xp" (skillups) from each attempt was annoying, especially later on when those skillups were pretty rare.

I think the main reason people don't remember being as bored in XI while crafting is that the materials to even skill up on were usually so expensive every synth was a nerve-wracking experience. Spend 5 hours hunting materials for 30 minutes of synthing only to get a total of 0.1 skillups. That's not boring, that's just annoying.

[Denmo]

Crafting may be far from good in XIV, but it is a ton better than it was in XI. Having to just hope you'll get any "xp" (skillups) from each attempt was annoying, especially later on when those skillups were pretty rare.

I think the main reason people don't remember being as bored in XI while crafting is that the materials to even skill up on were usually so expensive every synth was a nerve-wracking experience. Spend 5 hours hunting materials for 30 minutes of synthing only to get a total of 0.1 skillups. That's not boring, that's just annoying.

more like insane. I was one of the players who skipped crafting entirely. People who had a craft at 100 were truly elite bums, especially the weavers and armorers. They dominated the market.

I would even take it at a reduced success rate and reduced quantity output. I'd rather do something fun for 12 hours than something tedious for 20min.

This board is so full of trolls lately.

[Answa]

Ah, masochists.

Seeing my char actually get EXP for crafts is priceless. Seeing me have a measure of control over my synths is amazing.

The boring grind not-so-much, but making a weapon that was several levels above my own, which was a tough battle in and of itself, was about one of the most rewarding experiences I've had while crafting. It was enough to allow me to continue to push forward.

[EdenArchangel]

I wouldn't mind removing our current illusion of choice with 'standard synthesis.' Even if they are giving us an auto-complete with no chance of HQ, I would like to add the Final Fantasy part back that came with XI's synthesis.

Perhaps removing the silly white/yellow/red colors that honestly make statistically little difference and just put back the elemental sphere with appropriate sound effects?

I'm sure no one would miss the unstables in that regard

[Jedgar]

I miss spending thousands of gil on materials, only for the purpose of grinding, and ending up only getting about 0.5 skillups from all of it.

This. A thousand times this. As well as the "Oh crap its a Full Moon and Firesday. So I need to face Southwest to craft with an Ice Crystal."