Why the other casters need buffs and Red Mage does not need a nerf.

[Waliel]

2) melee will always be infront of ranged that like this, because get in melee for do damage is more risky than ranged.

There is zero extra risk in being a melee compared to ranged in this game. Standing in front of a boss and getting cleaved in half is exactly the same as running into a fire and wondering why you're getting roasted. Movement punishes casters more than melee, unless you have to disengage for a longer duration.

[Neela]

bla - you're lying.

You read the part she hasn't any raid/farm experience do u? I doubt she used it at all - but saying I'm lying just because you don't believe it is just a thing I love this community for. ^^'

[Grelvin]

RDM burst is being pretty over-stated.
The underlying cause for aggro pulls and seemingly 'huge burst' - is that RDM has little to no 'Ramp-up time' - They start DPSing, and immediately they are in a normal rotation. The dps doesn't get higher at 5 mins into a fight than it is at 20seconds into a fight. Conversely it doesn't get lower either. So all those lull's in fight mechanics don't really hurt them that much.

This has 2 adverse side effects. 1.) RDM IS a 'bursty' class, but it seems like its doing more damage than it is. For all that burst, they are not miles ahead of other casters. 2.) There's very little room for growth in rotation perfection and increasing dps at a certain point. The gap between a great RDM and an average one is pretty small. - Knowing fight mechanics perfectly and gearing up is going to have far less of an impact on a RDM than say... a NiN, which for all purposes, RDM should be the caster equivalent to a Ninja. Cept NiN are overperforming atm too

[PrismaticDaybreak]

You read the part she hasn't any raid/farm experience do u? I doubt she used it at all - but saying I'm lying just because you don't believe it is just a thing I love this community for. ^^'

And so the rest of you with your vast knowledge didn't ask if she had Diversion or recommend it? Y'know since RDM has a very front loaded opener?

[Galvuu]

And so the rest of you with your vast knowledge didn't ask if she had Diversion or recommend it? Y'know since RDM has a very front loaded opener?

Tbh, Diversion should be a given.
What will you take? Addle, Apoc, Lucid Dreaming and Erase should be obvious picks for any raid/high level content. They're all immediately useful for many situations (Apoc and Addle are life savers on Susano EX if your healers are sleeping- an apoc lets a tank take orbs so much easier, and Addling the triple aoe is also pretty good). What else will you take? Drain to heal 500HP on a job that can Vercure>Vercure with doublecast to heal itself? Break for the pitiful damage?
Diversion seems like an obvious choice, it shouldn't be needed to tell anyone that x)

(Not really aimed at you btw, just the situation in general- I just found it funny x) )

[Neela]

And so the rest of you with your vast knowledge didn't ask if she had Diversion or recommend it? Y'know since RDM has a very front loaded opener?

you just seem to want pick up a fight huh? idk your provocations - my statement about the situation was just an argument that Rdm indeed has a over-the-top strong burst. nothing more nothing less, how to compensate/decrease enmity wasn't even the topic and won't change a thing. but well trying to defend Rdms op-ness is senseless everybody got it by now that their output compared to their effort is just to high. you can say what you want - this fact won't change.

[Yorumi]

Diversion seems like an obvious choice, it shouldn't be needed to tell anyone that x)

Actually lucid has a 50% hate dump. Rdm has pretty good mp sustain. There really isn't any reason a rdm can't use lucid for hate management, even on the opening burst.

[RuneSevalle]

Actually lucid has a 50% hate dump. Rdm has pretty good mp sustain. There really isn't any reason a rdm can't use lucid for hate management, even on the opening burst.

Due to how the abilities actually function, Lucid can't actually take the place of Diversion for the opener. The reason for this is that LD drops your current accumulated enmity by 50%, while Diversion is generally popped BEFORE abilities because it lowers the enmity you'll accumulate with said abilities. Accidentally rip hate? LD is great when you get to orange or red. Don't want to rip it in the first place? Diversion is a better choice.

[PrismaticDaybreak]

It sounds like a lot of the argument here is "I'm not getting a good payoff for my job which is x degrees harder, why should you get one for a job that's simpler?" it just returns to the main point of this thread, the other casters need buffs due to their more complex playstyles.

[Galvuu]

Actually lucid has a 50% hate dump. Rdm has pretty good mp sustain. There really isn't any reason a rdm can't use lucid for hate management, even on the opening burst.

He should have both x)