Objectively, The Royal Managerie Will Be Nerfed

[JunseiKei]

I don't understand. Why would this fight get nerfed? You've seen all the mechanics before at some point in this game. Only now those mechanics are on one boss. More than likely, this will be the wandering minstrel fight (just like Ultima weapon and Thordan for ARR and HW final MSQ bosses respectively). Most of the time, you just need to talk with the party on how to do mechanics and have patience. I know patience is in pretty short supply.

[Lambdafish]

OP, I don't understand your logic. "SE will lose subs" is so melodramatic, I have not seen many complaints about this, I have seen people saying "thank God I finally beat it, not doing that again" but it hasn't walled a lot of people, and that means the fight has succeeded in its intent, and therefore a nerf is counterproductive. It will get a natural nerf with gear progression and it's difficulty will be forgotten over time.

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

I don't know if I was less lucky or less skilled, but it took me 2 DF groups before beating this. First group was a lot of new people. Lots of persistence and patience, but we were never able to clear. We kept improving though. 2nd group was 2nd or 3rd try. Despite taking more tries than many people here, I would not change this for anything! The clear felt satisfying and I felt like I was improving as a player.

[EorzeaHero69]

Patch notes are up, no RM nerf.

[Jadub2k]

On the other hand, I kinda feel if you're level 70, you should have a good enough grasp of what to do by now.

Seriously exactly this.. No amount of nerfing (or hand holding) well make people get better. People who want to get better will, those that don't just won't. Simple as that, & and if you still can't dodge or w/e after going through 4 YRS WORTH of content (and basically seeing every machinic this game has to offer & repeated multiple times in multiple pieces of content in the process) then just no helping you lol (with the exception of jump potion users, but reguardless) PLZ DO NOT NERF THIS EPIC FIGHT, its was amazing and to see this end up as a shell of itself (looking at you Original Steps of Fate) would be dishearting.. I love this fight, love helping people/friends clear it, plz do not nerf it...

[Dzian]

This fight reminds so much of "To Kill a Raven" from version 1.0 took us a month just to clear it. (Final Boss of Version 1.0) But my god it felt so great when you finally did.

That's Still one of my favorite fights..

hell just the fact it took place on a 3 dimensional arena was cool. dps having to climb up high in order to destroy those meteors before they reached ground level.

[Nalfein]

OP, I don't understand your logic. "SE will lose subs" is so melodramatic, I have not seen many complaints about this, I have seen people saying "thank God I finally beat it, not doing that again" but it hasn't walled a lot of people, and that means the fight has succeeded in its intent, and therefore a nerf is counterproductive. It will get a natural nerf with gear progression and it's difficulty will be forgotten over time.

So much this......

OP where did you get that from? It's the second thread you make with a pathetic attempt to prove and force your point to the community in SE' name.

[Domeric]

I completed it with a pug.

[Millen1]

I have cleared this one on both NA and JP servers more than once. The JP servers seem to work the issue and talk it out after a wipe. The NA servers, it is easy with a group of friends and a wipe or so, DF on NA servers is not much fun to get this. Lot of quit the moment everyone loads in to it. Though I don't think they should nerf this, I think it helps to increase the player base skill level and that is a plus. Some of the 61 to 69 dungeon mechs were more about doing the mechs over anything else. Second boss on the 3rd dungeon ring a bell. No fighting, just do the mechs and you get a check over your name or an X. Pass or fail, I thought that was pretty cool.

[Its_Elodie]

Most of the content in this game is a virtual cake walk. I do all of it from gathering/crafting at endgame, participating in the casual 24 mans and enjoying the usual dungeon crawl...to raiding endgame content. I actually felt like I earned seeing the end of the current Stormblood msq by besting the final boss.

I was around for the Steps of Faith fiasco when that trial was a fun concept that went horribly wrong because the developers thought we would want to sit around and coordinate and communicate with each other to accomplish a goal together. It turned out to be a plate of spaghetti and people would leave when queued in to what was more than likely a 30 minute wipe because people didn't want to have to communicate with each other during a trial. It was just too much. So that got nerfed.

This final boss doesn't need nerfing, you just can't Netflix and chill and expect to clear it. I wiped in a couple of groups but I was able to finally get it down. The problem is EVERYONE needs to pull their own weight. After I cleared it I got it in my trials all week long, and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't carry a group on my own. If you get in there and know it, explain the mechanics and that's really all you can do. Some people might take some wipes to get it down, but its completely doable. Just dodge all of the things, cleanse a debuff, do a qte, and don't fall off. Sometimes some groups just can't cut it and you have to disband. Isn't it like that for other content though too? Also, take into account that the people that initially get into this fight probably aren't outgearing it, so they won't be able to faceroll it and eat every mechanic to the face, which is quite unlike most of the content in this game which tends to not be too incredibly punishing.

Thank you devs for this final boss fight, it was very enjoyable.