Dark Knight AOE rotation

[Sarcatica]

Obviously TBN is great if you can have mobs pop the shield during pull. It serves as a heal for 3-4 autos. That said you have plenty of mana to swim around, and TBN is on 15sec recast so there is no reason to keep mana exclusively for that given that you can easily get 2400mana back off a Syphon Strike in Grit even if you empty out on AoEs. Sitting on 100 gauge is bad and you are bad if you let this happen often or all the time. Unless if you think TBN has no recast then yes, your point of tanking is moot.

If you want to just keep telling people to do more DPS, maybe you want to ask why isnt it happening already.

[Lidel417]

What is your secret to having so much mana then? On 10+ mobs pulls with blood price+delirium going I am still mana starved.

[Hruodig]

I know how to push dps. Please stop telling me as I already know. I am also not trying to argue about if pushing dps or being more durable on a pull is better. My point of this thread is if this rotation would make you more durable on a AOE pull, which seems to fly over everyones head. Some people actually want to be tanky on a tank character instead of push dps. Maybe your healer could output more dps if you were more tanky? Idk. I would really appreciate feedback on the rotation based on if you think it would make you more tanky or not and not the old.. do more dps nub.

I mean, you already said it yourself. Dps triumphs over all. Kill things faster=less healing having to be done. Sorry if that's not the answer you wanted.

[Lidel417]

You can also use the argument that if you are tankier then your healer could output more dps.

[Hruodig]

You can also use the argument that if you are tankier then your healer could output more dps.

If both players are good then you both find ways to maximize dps up time. This has always been true in my experience. As long as you're making efficient use of your cds and you're not just mindlessly mass pulling without tank stance, you're good to go nuts on dps.

[Sarcatica]

What is your secret to having so much mana then? On 10+ mobs pulls with blood price+delirium going I am still mana starved.

I have no mana issue when I pull that much and especially with Blood Price + Delirium. You were probably doing DA'd Abyssal Drain or something, it costs you 3.7k mana which is about equivalent to about 40% of your total mana per usage. Mana Management is way easier on Grit due to you recovering 1 DA worth every Syphon Strike.

The point here is while TBN should be used often for big pulls, it is NEVER up all the time due to 15sec recast for 5sec duration. Do you see how flawed your argument is? You can easily gain 4.8k mana off 2 Souleater combo in Grit within that period without even seeing Blood Price. Unless if you alternate TBN into DAAD then it might work to sustain HP but still not optimal because your healer can easily heal that much and more off 1 GCD.

[MagiusNecros]

What is your secret to having so much mana then? On 10+ mobs pulls with blood price+delirium going I am still mana starved.

Get a healer that doesn't suck and go yolo BW Quietus for all the MP ever. Needs blood though.

[Sarcatica]

You can also use the argument that if you are tankier then your healer could output more dps.

The fact that you are bringing this argument means that you don't really know how tanking really works in this game.

[Tankstuff]

I would only waste mp on DA AD if the healer was slacking and all my cds were used. But if you push dps the pack should die before your cds wear off, thus making you just as effective as sitting in grit doing da ad spam but having your cds wear off due to taking forever to kill the packs, but now you clear the dungeon faster. Ive leveled all 3 tanks to 70 and if im bored enough to find myself in dungeons for whatever reason now drk is my tank of choice. Pull everything use your cds and go ham, emergency tbn/da ad if you need to. But im in bis gear, slayer accessories, all grade vi melds so I dont really have anything to worry about lol and I notice the clear speed compared to my first tank at 70 when I played safe like youre doing.

[Lidel417]

The fact that you are bringing this argument means that you don't really know how tanking really works in this game.

I can't use that argument? Healers tell me all of the time that they would wish their tanks would be tankier so that they could dps more. Have you seen WHM dps?

Just to note: I do not use this rotation much, it was more of an idea to use your mana and globals more defensively so please stop calling me bad like you did earlier. Please stop pointing out how TBN works, I can read the tooltip.