Objectively, The Royal Managerie Will Be Nerfed

[Coratanni]

I agree, but the number of people that join RM without completing their lvl70 job quest is awfully high and I don't get why. As soon as I hit 70 I literally rushed to complete the job quest.
New shiny skill? Sign me up
New awesome gear? Yay
New cool weapon? YAY
But no no, a lot of people (at least in my Data Center) ignore it and join regardless - a lot of them with lvl60 gear, too. Not surprised you wipe!

I didnt use my level 70 whm ability once. To be honest I'm very disappointed in it for whm. The level 60 ability i use all the time before stormblood, but this confessions... RNG has never been on my side so it may as well not even be on my hotbar.

[Annah]

I have a feeling it'll be nerfed too (i hope not)

But if folks run into issues...get Verity tomes...it does make it easier

[Ametrine]

I have a feeling it'll be nerfed too (i hope not)

But if folks run into issues...get Verity tomes...it does make it easier

Again, you can't get Verity until you've cleared Managerie. Or are you telling those of us who have beaten it to go overgear ASAP to carry other players?

[Felis]

Again, you can't get Verity until you've cleared Managerie. Or are you telling those of us who have beaten it to go overgear ASAP to carry other players?

Hmm
Royal Managerie nerf can be done with making it a part of the next relic quest to lure overgeared players into it.

[AziraSyuren]

The only part I actually feel is somewhat overtuned is the meteor drop during the add phase. People seem to randomly die during that even if they're kinda sorta standing in the right place.

The rest is perfect, imo. It's a difficult and climactic end to an action-packed expansion and the feeling of triumph you get when you win matches what your character should feel.

I really hope it's not nerfed.

[SuperZay]

Got it in Mentor Roulette yesterday.
We wiped for 1 hour and disbanded.
DPS just was low and healers were OOM at about 20-30%
And new people can't upgrade to 310 to make it faster because verity shop is locked behind this trial.

I'll just instaquit it every time till they nerf it.
Not going to sacrifice more of my time because someone don't know how to balance story mode.

[Paladinleeds]

I'll just instaquit it every time till they nerf it.
Not going to sacrifice more of my time because someone don't know how to balance story mode.

Your prerogative. If I get it in a roulette, I will keep going until the bitter end. I believe my time is more valuably spent working with people. So if that trial comes up, I'll work with it until disband. No matter how many times I get it. And I hope for the sakes of people like you it DOESN'T get nerfed. Only change I can support is don't lock the tomestome gear behind this trial. That way people can gradually gear up for it.

[SuperZay]

Sure, support more bad balancing and bleeding subs. Steps of Faith and A3S lesson wasn't enough apparently.

[Paladinleeds]

Sure, support more bad balancing and bleeding subs. Steps of Faith and A3S lesson wasn't enough apparently.

Steps of Faith was a case of one mistake and you were sitting on a slow 10 minute long wipe-trailer. It took forever to wipe. That's why it was nerfed. A3S was heavily overtuned even for those who would want to attempt and clear Savage. They don't make sense here. Final Steps of Faith was another example people use as being "too hard" and needing a nerf, and it never got nerfed. The only difference there was you could access tomestone gear before hitting that trial and it wasn't locked behind it. Doing the same here and making tomestone gear available before RM would put it on the same front as FSOF.

Foreign concept i know. But this is how I am.. i tend to help people. I dont stand AFK in idyllshire with my bright and shinies and scoff "at the little player" and think "oh i must carry these subjects"

I know you probably do not believe this, but some people are just naturally helpful without thinking for a returned favor.

Pretty much sums up my previous post. I like helping people. Heck, someone asked for help with it in-progress once, so I tried to join. DF gave me a different instance of RM (bah, whatever), and we clear it in 2 attempts despite having some newbies. Some good explanation, and support, went a long way. If helping people grasp the fight and help them through it with guidance and support counts as carrying people, then I'm proud to carry people! Because in my eyes, that isn't carrying. They're trying their best, they're working at it. Someone with more experience helping and supporting them, and putting up markers, and talking them through the mechanics, goes a long way.

[Annah]

Again, you can't get Verity until you've cleared Managerie. Or are you telling those of us who have beaten it to go overgear ASAP to carry other players?

Don't be bitter about this.

This may be a foreign concept to you but me and other folks like to get over geared and then go back and help others who need help getting through any hard dungeon or trial....for free

Foreign concept i know. But this is how I am and this is how others are too.. we tend to help people. We don't scoff "at the little player" and think "oh i must carry these subjects...le sigh!" or call people out on forums about how silly or how bad they are.

I know you probably do not believe this, but some people are just naturally helpful without thinking for a returned favor or thinking "they must be carried."