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    Odd2oul's Avatar
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    as far as ive been playing scholar, eos has ALWAYS been the way to go. Selene's abilities are niche/borderline useless. Fey wind is only a 3% speed buff (not even as good as aoe Arrow). The only time Selene was used was when the dissipation bug was a thing, or if people were really adamant about that speed buff and would switch once selene was done using it (but its overall an mp waste to do). Eos' regen is so powerful BECAUSE that's the only regen we have, and its on a 1 minute cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd2oul View Post
    as far as ive been playing scholar, eos has ALWAYS been the way to go. Selene's abilities are niche/borderline useless. Fey wind is only a 3% speed buff (not even as good as aoe Arrow). The only time Selene was used was when the dissipation bug was a thing, or if people were really adamant about that speed buff and would switch once selene was done using it (but its overall an mp waste to do). Eos' regen is so powerful BECAUSE that's the only regen we have, and its on a 1 minute cooldown.
    than you are not raiding that long... selene was way more popular than eos for a long, long time. selene was also recommended for dng runs - noone actually cared for eos at all back in the days. until some worlds first recognized how powerful eos regen was it shifted in the community mindset and eos raised to the top because she was able to take over your healing part, letting you focus on dps. so don't tell me eos wasn't overpowered, if you don't even know how she became superior.
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-03-2017 at 09:24 PM.

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    ive been raiding since 3.3. bottom line is the fairy still can't solo heal and I'm still telling you it wasn't op. If I'd let just my fairy and cohealer do everything, i doubt i wouldve cleared expert roulette and creator savage.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odd2oul View Post
    ive been raiding since 3.3. bottom line is the fairy still can't solo heal and I'm still telling you it wasn't op. If I'd let just my fairy and cohealer do everything, i doubt i wouldve cleared expert roulette and creator savage.
    whatever makes you feel better... eos was one of a kind if you don't realize that you maybe just haven't used her right... and the only thing sch was healing in Alex was in some minor situation to keep up with the main healer after unavoidable aoe dmg or tankbusters. please don't try to get in a fight with me about eos... you would lose – I played Sch in creator as well and know what eos was capable of – schs main task was dpsing while being ready for an emergency – and the fact that schs can't do that anymore is the reason why so many are complaining bout the dot & fairy nerfs. truth is hurting I know : /
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-04-2017 at 12:41 AM.

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    Seolla Viltara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    whatever makes you feel better... eos was one of a kind and the only thing sch was healing in Alex was in some minor situation to keep up with the main healer after unavoidable aoe dmg or tankbusters. please don't try to get in a fight with me about eos... you would lose – I played Sch in creator as well and know what eos was capable of their main task was dpsing being ready for an emergency – at the fact that sch can't do that anymore is the reason why so many are complaining bout the dot & fairy nerfs. truth is hurting I know : /
    Eos was auto-regen on the tank. This means you didn't need to drop cleric to reapply, making it easier for your co-healer to tank heal since they had to drop clerics anyway. It's all quality of life. As a SCH you were still healing for AoEs and busters, and if you were smart you were main-healing during add phases while your partner DPSed with their far superior burst, but the class is supplemented by powerful ogcd abilities on cooldowns so this usually entailed popping Indomitiability or Emergency Tactics for AoE or healing the tank after getting your DoTs on and letting them do the work. SCH's strength in design is that it was simply easier for them to justify staying in Cleric Stance longer due to the nature of the kit and, in the fairy's particular case, being able to activate an AoE regen while still in Cleric Stance. This doesn't mean that WHM/AST couldn't do the exact same with their regen effects, but it wasn't as viable since they not only had to drop stance anyway to keep it up, but because their DPS kit was mostly spam attacks and their mana returns couldn't keep it up as well as SCH's low-cost ease of DoTs. Also, SCH just aren't as capable of healing recovery in dire emergency due to lack of poweful spam options, particularly with AoE, and their shield effects gave a reason to not care so much about overheal, so they solidified their "off-healer support" role in this way.

    And none of that is true anymore. SCH was designed in a way where it could comfortably get around Cleric Stance a little easier than its comparisons but now that Cleric is not only gone but DPS actions have all been normalized between the three classes the only advantage they have is that their regen effect doesn't take a GCD to cast (though Rouse does, so Whispering Dawn can be considered to still need one). Eos has always been a powerful tool for healers looking to DPS, but she can only carry in situations where you outgear the instance or your healing partner is willing to shoulder the work, and they generally did this because of the three healers SCH had the most options to pop quickly while stance-dancing with its 9-12 second windows to apply DoTs and quick ogcd heal options.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 07-04-2017 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    whatever makes you feel better... eos was one of a kind if you don't realize that you maybe just haven't used her right... and the only thing sch was healing in Alex was in some minor situation to keep up with the main healer after unavoidable aoe dmg or tankbusters. please don't try to get in a fight with me about eos... you would lose – I played Sch in creator as well and know what eos was capable of – schs main task was dpsing while being ready for an emergency – and the fact that schs can't do that anymore is the reason why so many are complaining bout the dot & fairy nerfs. truth is hurting I know : /
    Creator savage was a theme park ride. Of course Eos could heal 30% of it alone. It was a joke. Eos shined because Cleric Stance was in the game. SCH had best Cleric Stance sustain. Now that every healing can heal and DPS within a GCD with no penalty? Eos is nowhere near as powerful as she was. Nerfs were unneeded.
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