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  1. #61
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    http://imgur.com/wpXtJQ2

    The top sections were the chocobo healing himself, an average of 7k. The thing is, ChocoSurge is such a ridiculously short CD, it's always up.

    The bottom sections were embrace. An average of 3K. Roused AND Illum'ed only brought them up to 4.3K.

    So yes, A chocobo CAN outheal a fairy. That is freaking unacceptable.

    This is at 306 ilvl, not the best, but certainly a good sample.

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    Last edited by Deceptus; 07-03-2017 at 10:26 AM.

  2. #62
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    Lildragora's Avatar
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Yeah you get it. Fairy should be unnerfed because cleric stance is what made it "OP". Without cleric stance, we just have weaker sustain and shields.
    Not to mention another test, my lvl 60 AST in i270 with a i255 wep provides a Noctural Aspected Benefic of 3-3.3k, at 250% (default) thats a 7k shield roughly. My BiS SCH lvl 70 does a adlo for roughly 5k providing a 5k shield. They should have just left the fairy alone. While I could understand the chocobo being comparable to the fairy it should definitely not heal more. As well people dont seem to realize that regens accomplished the same thing as the fairy just differently which is why they had huge burst AOE imo. This whole situation just irritates me.
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  3. #63
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    there is a similar thread about egi-potecy in the dd forum. haven't found it yet after a quick look – but it's indeed proven that char pot =/= pet pot. At least for egis, which would make it logical that fairy pot is calculated in another way as well. : o
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  4. #64
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    I don't see any value in fixating on the arbitrary chocobo comparison; it makes the complaints seem weak because it's so obviously comparing apples to oranges. The chocobo is meant to compensate for not having a healer at all in solo content, while the fairy is meant to supplement a healer in group content. Where chocobos are generally not permitted in the first place.

    However, I do agree that the SCH nerfs were excessive and silly. Hopefully we'll see some un-nerfing taking place in tomorrow's update so SCH gets its shine back :/
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  5. #65
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    DynamoAce's Avatar
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    Ace Ark
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    Malboro
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Because a Chocobo is a healer on it's own as an assist.

    As a Scholar, it's you the healer, and your fairy as an assist healer being the extension of your abilities. Together, you make one big heal.

    Is this the kind of mentality where some think a Fairy can solo heal for Scholars in new content?
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  6. #66
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DynamoAce View Post
    Is this the kind of mentality where some think a Fairy can solo heal for Scholars in new content?
    someone in another thread got it straight on point:

    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Leveling scholar to 70 was very easy for me. You still get way more dps time than any other healer because the fairy can still do pretty well on her own. She just can't do your whole damn job anymore.
    thats what it's all about nothing more nothing less – this chocobo comparison is just a joke... like Dynamo said now the fairy is actually what she was supposed to be since the job hits the game: an assist healer. ^^
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  7. #67
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    Odd2oul's Avatar
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    Kira Lancaster
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Fairy couldn't solo heal. Thats a fact and you're overexaggerating.
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  8. #68
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    1001 runs proves the opposite but well don't worth a discussion ^^
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  9. #69
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    Odd2oul's Avatar
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    Kira Lancaster
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    Ultros
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    you got any links to a pre 4.0 video or anything like that?
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  10. #70
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Vid? Don't have any specific one but youtube should be full of raid videos or ex primal runs... maybe I have parsing screenshots from my static with Sch output but i won't post them here - not worth to risk a bann just for proving : /
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