The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

[SilvertearRen]

So you resent challenging content? Everyone can relate to your frustration when it comes to the technical issues. But when it comes down to it, it is your own fault if you wipe.

I'm not denying that it's the party's fault - mine included - if we get wiped. I'm advocating for the option to adjust the difficulty...

Again, because people on the forums can't get it through their head: Option.

Meaning, completely at your f*cking discretion if you want to turn it on or off.

Third, the so called "learning curve" system is no different than the normal/hard mode in WoW, and guess what, people still complain about hard mode being hard, when it specifically states "hard mode", and is supposedly designed for the "hardcores" who are willing to put in the time and effort to down the boss.

I've only played the original World of Warcraft for two weeks, so I don't really know what the gameplay features are like now. And I will tell you this, about the bolded text:

Those people are idiots.

If the feature exists, and people still can't grapple with the fact that the mode is designed for hardcore, and you do the damn raid at that option, you have essentially opted in and don't have a goddamn right to b*tch.

[Answa]

[Aistaraina]

Just have to say, your sig is greatly disturbing.

OT: No. Not going to happen. Not on this content. Not on any content before 2.0 at least.

Continue fighting.

[DoctorMog]

Hmm,

I say we keep the rank 30 as "easy"

and the 50 as "hard"

option for difficulty: Complete.

[Alerith]

The OP wants a scaling difficulty setting so that casual players have a chance to beat Ifrit, at the expense of not being able to get drops.

That being said, I disagree. Yoshi wants a balance between hardcore and casual. This does not mean make all the hardcore fights scaled for casual players.

It means having casual content and hardcore content.

When you make the hardcore content scale on a difficulty slider, then it takes away from the hardcore community because really, not everyone should be able to do that content unless they are dedicated enough.

Balance between Casual and Hardcore does not mean Hardcore with difficulty settings.

[SilvertearRen]

Hmm,

I say we keep the rank 30 as "easy"

and the 50 as "hard"

option for difficulty: Complete.

[SIZE="7"]Oh, for F*ck's sake![/SIZE]

I've already said in this thread that the Rank 25 fight does not follow the same behavior patterns as the Rank 50 fight, and requires that at least one person in the party have the required quest active.

Therefore, it is NOT applicable to this debate/discussion.

I am thoroughly convinced that you are seriously trying to piss me off and repeatedly create disinformation. Stop posting.

Seriously, can I get some moderator support on this thread? This is aggravating. I'm trying my best to keep this thread constructive, and DoctorMog is needlessly antagonizing.

[KayaeDrazin]

"Dangerous to the community?" Resentment? "Community Unity?" Do you know what I resent? Inanity. Look it up, it's a great word. Phrases like the the unity of the community and other talking points are growing to be way too common. These things are being used as a bludgeon by the inane to try to get one's way.

They feel left behind, weak, listless, and are not being listened to - they are the little guy. Do you know why? Because they are inane, they are spectacularly boring and repetitive, they don't like a challenge they want it all handed over. They scream they represent the majority, they scream loud and long and far; and surely that means they are the voice of all.

I am part of the community, you do not represent me, and your entire idealism that everyone feels like this beat up lost weak creature is not who I am. Your demands that people that can succeed need to be diminished are as invalid as your fallacious logic that you are in fact the representative of the masses. I'm tired of these wearying demands that we hear you out, while you hold us hostage with a sad, whining persistence.

I speak for me. I like this battle, I like challenges, I like scores being kept, I like getting beat sometimes to get better, I like red ink on my errors, I like difference, I like division, I like hierarchy, I like rich, I like good, I like strong.

I am not a victim, and I will not have people like me made into sacrifices to mediocracy. To quote Hank Reardon, "If it is now the belief of my fellow men, who call themselves the public, that their mood requires victims, then I say: The public good be damned, I will have no part of it!"

Nicely said!

[KyrsIsley]

Those people are idiots.

If the feature exists, and people still can't grapple with the fact that the mode is designed for hardcore, and you do the damn raid at that option, you have essentially opted in and don't have a goddamn right to b*tch.

The irony... I wonder what that "HYPER" means.

[SilvertearRen]

"Dangerous to the community?" Resentment? "Community Unity?" Do you know what I resent? Inanity. Look it up, it's a great word. Phrases like the the unity of the community and other talking points are growing to be way too common. These things are being used as a bludgeon by the inane to try to get one's way.

They feel left behind, weak, listless, and are not being listened to - they are the little guy. Do you know why? Because they are inane, they are spectacularly boring and repetitive, they don't like a challenge they want it all handed over. They scream they represent the majority, they scream loud and long and far; and surely that means they are the voice of all.

I am part of the community, you do not represent me, and your entire idealism that everyone feels like this beat up lost weak creature is not who I am. Your demands that people that can succeed need to be diminished are as invalid as your fallacious logic that you are in fact the representative of the masses. I'm tired of these wearying demands that we hear you out, while you hold us hostage with a sad, whining persistence.

I speak for me. I like this battle, I like challenges, I like scores being kept, I like getting beat sometimes to get better, I like red ink on my errors, I like difference, I like division, I like hierarchy, I like rich, I like good, I like strong.

I am not a victim, and I will not have people like me made into sacrifices to mediocracy. To quote Hank Reardon, "If it is now the belief of my fellow men, who call themselves the public, that their mood requires victims, then I say: The public good be damned, I will have no part of it!"

I am not asking for any of your preferences to be acted against. Do I think I'm the majority? No.

Do I think we, as players, should have choices in how we play our content? Yes.

Am I trying to water down hardcore content? No.

Am I trying to hold you hostage? No. You are holding yourselves hostage by acknowledging me.

Am I asking for everything to be handed over to me? Hells take you!

My counterargument to your statement is that I desire nothing more than the flexibility of having the option to choose my difficulty for the endgame content.


P.S. For as long as people continue to reply to this thread with a mindset unwilling to accept and respect the concept of "The freedom to choose your experience" within the context of endgame, this thread will continue to live. You have been warned.

(No, the R25 Ifrit fight does not qualify as endgame content. Guess why! It's R25...)

[DoctorMog]

We UNDERSTAND what you want.

We dont AGREE with your opinion.