Why does a Rank 10 Chocobo heal more than a BiS SCH's Fairy?

[Rubiss]

Even then, AST extended buff duration and WHM holy spam were as strong in cleaning trash.
Every one had their way arround cleric stance, fairy just asked less (to no) input.

8-man is another matter, SCH was the off-heal spot of choice. But then, that make them more a commodity than a necessity. The sheer number a WHM can bring is what can make a clunky party into a successful one, not someone who is neither a full-time DPS nor a healer.



No way, she just got tired of healing expert dungeons by herself for month.

Eos is like the Doma resistance. We need YoshiP (Hien) to rally some blood back into the hearts of Doma.

[Vyriah]

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Obviously mobs are gonna hit the tank for more than 15 sec. If they would die that quick, tanks wouldn't even be needed. and it being only 15 sec is what makes the SCH weaker now, as 30 sec would cover most of the fight previously. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

Also, that weak slow is the best option here. Eye for an eye is less reliable, virus and shields are for burst damage and sacred soil falls flat on single target. 5% slow is exactly the kind of thing you need in a situation where a group of 10-15 mobs are pummeling one target with mostly auto-attacks, only stopping to cast dodgeable skills.

If it was that useless, why was it reworked the wya it is ? The way it is now is clearly aimed at reducing its uptime without affecting its damage, i'm pretty sure it's not for cosmetic purpose. There's a clear direction toward making dungeon less insignifiant in 4.0, the changes done to shadow flare is part of that.

[Cynfael]

If it was that useless, why was it reworked the wya it is ? The way it is now is clearly aimed at reducing its uptime without affecting its damage, i'm pretty sure it's not for cosmetic purpose. There's a clear direction toward making dungeon less insignifiant in 4.0, the changes done to shadow flare is part of that.

You might as well ask why it has that 5% Slow to begin with. My guess would be "flavor," because it's mathematically rather insignificant.

As you may have noticed, SE developers, while generally pretty good IMO, make some highly questionable design choices now and then.

[LegoTechnic]

You might as well ask why it has that 5% Slow to begin with. My guess would be "flavor," because it's mathematically rather insignificant.

As you may have noticed, SE developers, while generally pretty good IMO, make some highly questionable design choices now and then.

My assumption was so that we could see what mobs were actually standing in the shadowflare.

[amihavingfunyet]

If it was that useless, why was it reworked the wya it is ? The way it is now is clearly aimed at reducing its uptime without affecting its damage, i'm pretty sure it's not for cosmetic purpose. There's a clear direction toward making dungeon less insignifiant in 4.0, the changes done to shadow flare is part of that.

Not really on topic, but I think one reason for it was to close the skill gap (for SMN), since I've seen a lot of SMN (and SCH) who didn't keep their SF up.

[Vyriah]

Not really on topic, but I think one reason for it was to close the skill gap (for SMN), since I've seen a lot of SMN (and SCH) who didn't keep their SF up.

Uh, fair point. It makes a lot of sense in the way too.
I always though it wasn't worth the damage for its cast unless there were more than one target.

[Riyshn]

Uh, fair point. It makes a lot of sense in the way too.
I always though it wasn't worth the damage for its cast unless there were more than one target.

It was worth it on single target, but it required the enemy to stay in it for 21-24 seconds of it's 30sec duration.

[OcieKo]

As far as Im concerned SCHs fairies' biggest issue is still its slow and clunky AI. Which would probably be more worthwhile and effective to update than some pretty unnecessary potency buffs.

[Selova]

Very bad example then ...

It's not a bad example. You clearly lack reading comprehension. No one is asking to nerf the chocobo and it's healing, they are using it as a comparison to show SE that scholar's fairy was nerfed way too hard. A core mechanic of a healing class should not be less than a companion that is designed to smooth out the leveling process outside of group content. Try actually understand what is being said otherwise you make yourself look foolish.

[Rubiss]

It's not a bad example. You clearly lack reading comprehension. No one is asking to nerf the chocobo and it's healing, they are using it as a comparison to show SE that scholar's fairy was nerfed way too hard. A core mechanic of a healing class should not be less than a companion that is designed to smooth out the leveling process outside of group content. Try actually understand what is being said otherwise you make yourself look foolish.

Yeah you get it. Fairy should be unnerfed because cleric stance is what made it "OP". Without cleric stance, we just have weaker sustain and shields.