Please relook at the You Got Game achievement

[Syrehn]

The point is to make it extremely hard. Most games have at least ONE really difficult achievement to obtain.

Except that this achievement is not extremely hard. It's just extremely time consuming for no reason. The problem is the RNG behind the achievement. Are you lucky enough to be online when 1 of the S ranks spawn, and are you lucky enough to make it to said S rank before it's pulled and killed.

Think of this through the eyes of a brand new player, that's just gotten to 70, was this a conscious design on SE's part with those players in mind (not just the ones that have been doing hunts for a few years already). Were they really expecting new players who want this mount to dedicate 2 - 5+ years doing mostly hunts and not partake in other aspects of the game because this achievement is so heavily time gated.

If SE wants to keep the current kill values, I'd rather see them add purchasable items (via Seals as mentioned by others in the thread) to force spawn S ranks in addition to upping the health on the current mobs so that they're not instantly killed.

[Antonio_Xul]

I can still be rare and grindy without taking players 5+ years to achieve.

It obviously doesn't take 5 years if 20 of the most dedicated player already have it. The Hunt was released 3 years ago to the date. If you want it, you have try for it. I give up certain in game activities to achieve others. Most likely the same goes for any dedicated Hunter, PVPer, Raider, Crafter or Gatherer in game.

[Syrehn]

It obviously doesn't take 5 years if 20 of the most dedicated player already have it. The Hunt was released 3 years ago to the date. If you want it, you have try for it. I give up certain in game activities to achieve others. Most likely the same goes for any dedicated Hunter, PVPer, Raider, Crafter or Gatherer in game.

Um... what...

It takes 2 1/2 years of non-stop dedication. The players that have the mount already weren't doing much of anything else; minimal pvp, minimal dungeons no hardcore raiding, etc.

It will take 5+ years if a player does 1 S rank a day each day (luck if you can be on when it spawns, luck if you can get there for the kill). This total is for people that want to be able to do other things in the game in ADDITION to hunts.

Wanna try out chocobo racing, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt. Wanna try pvp, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt. Wanna try raiding, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt if you want this mount in less than 5 yrs.

That's just asinine.

[Antonio_Xul]

Exactly my point. You can't have everything so pick out what you want and work for it. Also, a lot of the times, multiple S ranks pop in a single day once the timer is ready. Now there are more S ranks added and with multiple instances, the SB ones will pop multiple times each.

[SuperZay]

The players that have the mount already weren't doing much of anything else; no pvp, minimal dungeons no hardcore raiding, etc.

It will take 5+ years if a player does 1 S rank a day each day (luck if you can be on when it spawns, luck if you can get there for the kill). This total is for people that want to be able to do other things in the game in ADDITION to hunts.

Wanna try out chocobo racing, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt. Wanna try pvp, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt. Wanna try raiding, sorry gotta be ready for a hunt if you want this mount in less than 5 yrs.

That's just asinine.

That's not true at all. I've checked other mounts of someone who has the tiger, and he has A12S mount, Firebird, Astrope, PvP mounts, even new Ixion.
If someone really wants something, he'll not look for any excuses, he just gets it without complaining.

[Syrehn]

Exactly my point. You can't have everything so pick out what you want and work for it. Also, a lot of the times, multiple S ranks pop in a single day once the timer is ready. Now there are more S ranks added and with multiple instances, the SB ones will pop multiple times each.

1) Those multiple instances are temporary. So there won't be multiples popping across instances because there will only be 1 instance per zone.

2) You shouldn't have to pick just 1 thing and devote 100% of your time to it, you should be able to enjoy other aspects of the game. Currently if you attempt to get this mount, you cannot do that. The players that choose to participate in things outside of mindless hunts have a minimum 5 year wait for a tiger mount. Working towards an achievement (any achievement) shouldn't take 2 1/2 - 5+ years. Again, that's asinine no matter how you try to spin it.

As mentioned before, if SE is unwilling to lower the kill requirements, they could add a purchasable item for centurio seals that will force spawn S ranks in addition to modifying their health pools so they take longer to kill.

[SuperZay]

Well if tiger owner has a mount for 2000 Mentor Roulettes and achievement for 5k kills in The Feast and for 200 Frontline wins then he certainly doesn't dedicate all time to Hunts.

[Antonio_Xul]

Well if tiger owner has a mount for 2000 Mentor Roulettes and achievement for 5k kills in The Feast and for 200 Frontline wins then he certainly doesn't dedicate all time to Hunts.

Exactly. If you have the time and dedication to do it, you will be rewarded. That person is just super dedicated! Awesome! No excuses hold up. Work for it, or move on.

[Lunafreya]

It's a generic tiger mount. I'd rather not spend my life getting it.

[SokiYagami]

Exactly. If you have the time and dedication to do it, you will be rewarded. That person is just super dedicated! Awesome! No excuses hold up. Work for it, or move on.

And you need equivalent amount of free time to grind it out as well, not something everyone might have. In the end it boils down to the personal view on exclusive rarity, there's no really right or wrong answer to that imo. While I'll still be working towards the 3A2S condition, I wouldn't complaint if they lower the bar a little. Then again, I'm never one for exclusives so it might sound bias. :/

Also, for the people who argued regarding the disadvantage (or rather, lack of head start) for the new players, I direct you to take a look at the recent change to the veteran rewards. Not exactly the same thing, but it's kind of similar to the discussion in this thread.