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  1. #41
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    With succor, indom and whispering dawn, we really have plenty.
    So you say until somebody fails the jump rope in Susan EX and the main healer falls right before Ukehi. Then you have to Succor the party, ET Succor to top off after the first Ukehi, Indom after the second and start your Succor, and HOPE you can get multiples out before individuals fall to the 3rd. Whispering Dawn can help there if you're lucky enough to have it up (meaning you didn't use it during jump rope to avoid having to heal anybody doing the mechanic) and have Eos actually use it before the raid takes too much damage, or else people will fall and there's nothing you can do about it.
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  2. #42
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    I agree with what most others have said, Scholar has enough AoE healing at the moment. It's not as freely used as Medica or Helios, but that's kinda the point of Scholar as a whole in my opinion
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  3. #43
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    So you say until somebody fails the jump rope in Susan EX and the main healer falls right before Ukehi. Then you have to Succor the party, ET Succor to top off after the first Ukehi, Indom after the second and start your Succor, and HOPE you can get multiples out before individuals fall to the 3rd. Whispering Dawn can help there if you're lucky enough to have it up (meaning you didn't use it during jump rope to avoid having to heal anybody doing the mechanic) and have Eos actually use it before the raid takes too much damage, or else people will fall and there's nothing you can do about it.
    Sacred Soil and either Largesse, Fey Covenant, or Fey Illumination actually makes that quite manageable.
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  4. #44
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    Sacred Soil and either Largesse, Fey Covenant, or Fey Illumination actually makes that quite manageable.
    Had Sacred Soil up, Covenant was on cooldown from the last one. I don't know if the party isn't geared enough or if it's me, I cannot solo heal that at all as a SCH, and I had to try at least 3 times in the attempts last night.
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  5. #45
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Had Sacred Soil up, Covenant was on cooldown from the last one. I don't know if the party isn't geared enough or if it's me, I cannot solo heal that at all as a SCH, and I had to try at least 3 times in the attempts last night.
    It was probably your party - and let's be honest, if you had people taking so much damage from jump rope that they needed whispering dawn... well. Healers aren't supposed to be designed to deal with most of the party being suicidal, we're supposed to have limits and other people are supposed to attempt to do mechanics properly.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    It was probably your party - and let's be honest, if you had people taking so much damage from jump rope that they needed whispering dawn... well. Healers aren't supposed to be designed to deal with most of the party being suicidal, we're supposed to have limits and other people are supposed to attempt to do mechanics properly.
    I believe what he meant is that if people do the lightning mechanic correctly, Whispering Dawn is (usually) enough to heal people up from the lightning strikes as they happen without any active intervention.
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  7. #47
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    I believe what he meant is that if people do the lightning mechanic correctly, Whispering Dawn is (usually) enough to heal people up from the lightning strikes as they happen without any active intervention.
    Yes, but that's a total waste, though. If done correctly the lightning mechanic only damages one person. Why would you waste whispering dawn on that?
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  8. #48
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    Because while it is only one person at a time, it is still 8 people getting hit. If you can use one of Eos's spells instead of spending GCDs healing them up, why wouldn't you?
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by seida View Post
    Yes, but that's a total waste, though. If done correctly the lightning mechanic only damages one person. Why would you waste whispering dawn on that?
    Four people take lightning damage during jump rope. If you whisper it, then you only need to do a single Succor before the following Unkehi to top off everyone and maybe a quick heal on the last lightning target depending, so you can completely ignore healing for the entire duration of the jumprope. If you trigger Whispering Dawn in the middle of jump rope it will also still be up for Unkehi. And let's be real, since you probably have Eos out anyway when else are you going to use Whispering Dawn? There isn't a lot of staggered damage in the Susano fight, and it gets a lot of work done during lightning.
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  10. #50
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    Triptolemus Zaels
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    Balmung
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    Stop pretending you don't have Succor, Indom, Emergency Tactics, and an auto healer, and proactively heal the party!
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    Last edited by RiisWolf; 07-02-2017 at 10:04 AM.

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