Why does a Rank 10 Chocobo heal more than a BiS SCH's Fairy?

[GunksFoy]

Easily 200 points superior. I forgot to screencap whm Character screen, but it is identical gear. i250 crafted weapons on both and identical gear the rest of the way down. 250 potency may not be true 250, but it's still higher than 150 despite not being much higher.

Addtionally, pardon my hotbars, I haven't set them back up since the changes lol.

[Sanghelios]

Who actually balances healers at SE? Do they have parses? Do they know what HPS (heals per second) is? Are they even aware that fairy is so bad now that a chocobo is doing well? Can we get a chocobo that can out DPS Bahamut?

I am blown away that these people still have jobs. Who approves this? YoshiP is meticulous about who he's hires? He must be hiring amateurs who have never played an MMO.

Sorry but this made me laugh. Cant really get it how someone can rant about this. Chocobos are just fine. They arent even designed for the content your fairy takes part in...

[Odd2oul]

The fairy was nerfed, but remember that sch now also have access to largesse.
Sch didnt have access to a "free" healing boost OGCD before. (fey illumination is eos only, and dissipation kills the fairy).
Same for the nerf to aetherflux, which,i think, is to compensate for the access to lucid dream.

Huh???? No its not?? It never was eos only.
Fey Illumination: Increases healing magic potency of self and nearby party members by 10%.
In HW it was 20%. Literally largesse is only good because illumination got nerfed.

[Docteur_Fluttershy]

You missed my point on eos, i meant that "fey illumination" is only usable when using "eos", therefore "eos only", as dissipation is only accessible by killing a fairy. (i wasnt refering to the skill range or effect).

For largesse, its an amazing skill, it is not "only good because fey illumination got nerfed", it is a free healing boost.
The nerfs of the fairy could be predicted, but since the devs added largesse, they are are way more important than if sch didnt have access to it.
And again, that is a supposition. If the fairy stayed like she was, and sch had access to largesse with no counterpart, that would have been a healer beast.
Remember that actualy, sch is the only healer that can put himself to +60% healing. (not that this have any use right now, but since raids have really high spikes and low sustain damage, that seems like a good asset. we'll have to wait for the raid to actualy see if it is nice.)

[Odd2oul]

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Ah ok that just seemed really weirdly worded. Honestly im not overall happy with the cross role abilities to begin with, seeing as they just took pretty important things from all healers and want us to buy them back instead of making new and helpful healer abilities(like shirk), thats just how i see it. SCH +60% is still weaker in healing compared to whm/ast, but its more about the indom/lusrates/shields anyhow. I'm hoping for omega to not suddenly change the low sustain damage expectancy.

[Vyriah]

Just please, fairy being OP was a joke.
Healing requierement were just too low in expert dungeon, combined with Shadow Flare's massive mitigation when landed on a lot of mob, combined with tanks CD and enough DPS made fairy able to heal through whole dungeon.

Now, fairy is weaker, tanks lost a CD, Shadow Flare's uptime is lower and overall AoE DPS is down.
But I guess Fairy can get a 200hp/3s out of a 100 more potency means everything is okay.

[Rubiss]

Just please, fairy being OP was a joke.
Healing requierement were just too low in expert dungeon, combined with Shadow Flare's massive mitigation when landed on a lot of mob, combined with tanks CD and enough DPS made fairy able to heal through whole dungeon.

Now, fairy is weaker, tanks lost a CD, Shadow Flare's uptime is lower and overall AoE DPS is down.
But I guess Fairy can get a 200hp/3s out of a 100 more potency means everything is okay.

Fairy was only strong because of how cleric stance worked. Now that every healing can DPS without needing to swap and heal, Fairy is fine. Nerfing it made no sense.

[LegoTechnic]

Fairy is weaker than Regen by itself. Regen can be cast on multiple people. Multiple regens (medica 2, asylum, etc) stack.

Fairy tax ranges somewhere between 30-40% in terms of potency. While the exact value varies with gear progression, embrace effectively heals for a player potency of 160-170 and Whispering Dawn for a regen potency of 60-70. When roused, both moves heal much closer to their listed potency of 250 and 100 respectively, which raises the issue that you have to rouse the fairy just to get to perform properly, making one wonder if Eos isn't just super lazy.

[Cynfael]

Shadow Flare's massive mitigation

Everything else aside, I feel compelled to call this out. People see a Slow debuff icon and assume it's doing something.

It's not.

5% slow is extremely negligible. You might be able to note a difference if you allow the mobs to expire of old age, but in your average fight, 15 seconds of 5% slow isn't enough to mitigate much of anything. Besides, if 20+ mobs are all attacking your tank for 15 seconds or longer, that's usually an indicator that you have a much bigger problem on your hands.

[Vyriah]

Fairy was only strong because of how cleric stance worked. Now that every healing can DPS without needing to swap and heal, Fairy is fine. Nerfing it made no sense.

Even then, AST extended buff duration and WHM holy spam were as strong in cleaning trash.
Every one had their way arround cleric stance, fairy just asked less (to no) input.

8-man is another matter, SCH was the off-heal spot of choice. But then, that make them more a commodity than a necessity. The sheer number a WHM can bring is what can make a clunky party into a successful one, not someone who is neither a full-time DPS nor a healer.

making one wonder if Eos isn't just super lazy.

No way, she just got tired of healing expert dungeons by herself for month.