The way wariors feel about pld

[eagledorf]

only to then faux up these roles the most in terms of balance.

Ranged physical is definitely the most fed up. They really might as well delete Machinist from the game. I haven't seen even one Machinist since SB dropped it's so bad.

Healers are probably next worst since AST is so overpowered, but melee is also fed up. MNK and DRG are vastly under-powered compared to NIN and SAM. NIN has been so overpowered since it was introduced it's not even funny. Can you honestly imagine a party comp that doesn't include a NIN? Can you imagine any party comp without a NIN at any point since it was added to the game? Obviously not since Trick Attack. That's how garbage melee balance is.

Tanks are probably the second best balanced after the casters, which is just a testament to how poorly the jobs have been balanced in general.

[Zojha]

Ranged physical is definitely the most fed up.

Nono, magical DPS tanks is the worst! DRK's Abyssal Drain and Dark Passenger can't remotely compete with PLD's Holy Spirit spam. Block tanks are even worse - there's literally only one option.

Why are we segregating a role again if they're all competing for the same slots anyway? Nothing is stopping you from taking two ranged physicals or two melees along - it's actually been meta last season. Ranged physical DPS can be perfectly balanced against each other - nobody is going to pick them if just taking another melee or mage along is much better in the first place. Thus, these sub-roles of DPS are irrelevant and you have to look at DPS balance as a whole. Not doing so would be short-sighted, whether it's done by the devs or the players.

And honestly? For having three times as many jobs in it, DPS balance is looking a lot better than tank and healer balance overall. It's nowhere near as bad as people seriously considering job stacking as they do with PLD.