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  1. #11
    Player Clethoria's Avatar
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    Y'aschas Massif
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 72
    Gettin' real tired of this "One per account" biz. I've said it before and I'll say it- begrudgingly, again. The economy on Balmung isn't the same as the one on Lich. Or any other non congested server. It should be 1 per data center.
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    Soli Dus
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I greatly support this, but...i know, they wont do anything.
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  3. #13
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I believe the fix is to make an area of instanced housing. Where it generates a plot of land by itself. Make it upgradeable too. Use some lore reason of you're being teleported into a safe area of the Ascian world or something and the Ascian realm is able to bend space like that. That is the only fix in my opinion. Any other fix would just upset a lot of people if you ask me. No neighbours etc, but it would mean housing for all.
    This is a terrible idea. I've seen it in another game. All it does is become a way for players to just play a FFXIV dressed "farmville". Forget ever using the market again for minerals, plants, or fish, just grow your own. Though in this other game, you can't actually go inside the "farmhouse" you can only do stuff with the land. This BTW was an upgrade to the actual "farm plots" they had, because the bots and clever players learned you could just make mountains of money in the game by doing it, and since the farm plots were extremely limited and time-limited everyone just monopolized them any way they could (eg by AFK'ing.)

    People forget FFXIV has apartments too.

    Not everyone needs a house, and you don't get any communities popping up if you instance absolutely every oversubscribed feature. As it is, if you go around the housing areas, you're lucky to even see maybe 4 people, and that is owing entirely to the fact that the housing areas are also instanced to begin with.

    The reason you want instancing for some things is simply to reduce congestion or travel time. One of FFXIV V1.0's worst complaints was the market stalls, where you literately had to go through dozens of identical looking market areas with shoulder-to-shoulder retainers manually looking at each retainer for things. This was horribly tedious. If you had to do the same thing with the housing area, it would again have that problem. People would simply not go through the housing area, they would just teleport to their own house, and that's that. If you instance the housing so that each house+land is it's own instance, (basically apartments with all the features of a house, but no neighbors) there is no point in having a "housing area" at all.

    In some respects that creates an even worse problem, where there are all these "walled off" parts of a world that nobody ever sees.

    As it is, SE should never have made it possible to "lock the front door" of a house while the owner is offline. Part of the fun of being able to decorate is knowing who stopped by to look at things.

    The cost of an apartment in the game is only 40% more than the cost of a room in a FC's house. So the instanced living spaces exist in two forms already. We don't need another one.
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  4. #14
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    Eldevern's Avatar
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    The whole housing system is broken. From my point of view, my 2 cents :

    1. FC and private houses really need to be separated.

    2. Private house could be fairly shared between characters from the same account and server.

    3. They will never do such thing, probably, but housing would be more interesting if it be really possible to build house and make it bigger depending of people IG-money. In return, people can only have one house per server, that's the point 2.

    The current system is too rigid.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 07-02-2017 at 01:25 AM.

  5. #15
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    Actually, this instanced housing would be for FCs only. Airships and workshops are locked behind this housing. Apartments and Private Chambers are not a fix for that. Since apartments and private chambers do not give workshops, and this airships. A lot of FCs don't have access to housing, especially on servers like Odin. This needs to be rectified, or should any FC that decides to grow just be SOL because the plots are already taken and they should just join an existing FC instead? For player housing, I agree, apartments and FC chambers are a decent solution, but what about FCs? They have those houses only. And before you say transfer, let's say the FCs do just that, and then all plots on all worlds are taken. What would you suggest then? You're only tackling the individual housing problem, not the FC housing side of it, by suggesting apartments/private chambers.
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  6. #16
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    Yazmyn Pinha
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    Archer Lv 76
    I support the one per data center per account.
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  7. #17
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    FC's should not count as the FC (and therefore the house) have fluid ownership. I know it can be rigged but that's unavoidable.

    As for personals, yes, one per account, per server is enough. And on top of that all your alts on your server should have 100% access to the home.
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