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  1. #11
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    Rubiss's Avatar
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by eikomakimachi View Post
    While I agree with almost everyone about the aoe healing, I do think they need to review some things on SCH. I mean, Dissipation for example is the kind of skill I think I've only used 5 times as a big panic button to have extra aetherflow since HW was released. Almost everything else in our job screams STAY WITH THE FAIRY ON.
    Dissipation is very situational at best but SE loves to give SCH barely used, situational skills, so it's not changing any time soon.
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  2. #12
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Dissipation is very situational at best but SE loves to give SCH barely used, situational skills, so it's not changing any time soon.
    It may have to depending on how well we perform in the Omega raids. If we have a hard time keeping up, we're going to get buffed. If not, the class will stay like this for a while most likely.
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  3. #13
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    However yes... Scholar have less aoe recovery if your coheal dies and people fail mechanics.
    So with people making mistakes, ast and whm can save it easier (in aoe situation).
    2x AST can let the raid flat out ignore Susano Ex's lightning mechanic... :/
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  4. #14
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    M'yana Thul
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    Shiva
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    You have Whispering Wind, Succor, Indom, ET Succor, Adlo DT.....5 is enough AOE healing I think.
    Calling the Adlo DT shield a heal is straight up wishful thinking. You could as well wrap your party in one ply (two ply if crit) toilette paper and throw the empty roll at the enemies. The result is the same except you would save some MP.
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  5. #15
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    I wonder if SE would consider drastically reducing the cooldown of ET (say, to 5 seconds?)

    That could give SCH access to what more or less works out of a medica/cure II equivalent, but not completely do away with SCH's emphasis on shields.
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  6. #16
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    Kaja White
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    2x AST can let the raid flat out ignore Susano Ex's lightning mechanic... :/
    I mean, you can do it with ast/sch and ast/whm quite easily. I can't say for sch/whm (because I haven't experienced that combo yet), but its not exclusive to dual ast.
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  7. #17
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by eikomakimachi View Post
    While I agree with almost everyone about the aoe healing, I do think they need to review some things on SCH. I mean, Dissipation for example is the kind of skill I think I've only used 5 times as a big panic button to have extra aetherflow since HW was released. Almost everything else in our job screams STAY WITH THE FAIRY ON.
    I used to use it in PVP reasonably often but... then they completely changed PVP, so I'm probably never going to use it again. At least auto-resummoning the fairy after the effect wears off might make it situational, instead of an unnecessarily complicated skill I'll never have time to sort out in any situation where it's actually useful. If they made Dissipation good and balanced it appropriately, it could even fix the current situation with the Aetherflow nerfs.
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  8. #18
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I would be fine with dissipation if it didnt consume my fairy, sort of acting like a Advanced Aetherflow. Similar to DWT on SMN id also like it to refresh my CDs, but that would never happen. SE hates SCH too much..
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  9. #19
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    I mean, you can do it with ast/sch and ast/whm quite easily. I can't say for sch/whm (because I haven't experienced that combo yet), but its not exclusive to dual ast.
    Um. No. SCH would burn aetherflow stacks and CDs it needs for Ukehi.

    WHM could do it a bit easier but it would be a lot more MP intensive without AST's super shields.

    2x AST just makes it trivial.
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  10. #20
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I wonder if SE would consider drastically reducing the cooldown of ET (say, to 5 seconds?)

    That could give SCH access to what more or less works out of a medica/cure II equivalent, but not completely do away with SCH's emphasis on shields.
    Maybe not 5s, 10-15 would certainly save us a hell of a lot of trouble; not only with aoe healing but with overeager, clueless dungeon tanks
    Our other aoe skills are fine imho, we don't need an "on-demand" spammable aoe heal, our planned aoe heals and "niche"-y healing tools are a core part of SCH's identity... I STILL defend that most of those skills could use (read: NEED) some tweaking, but aoe is, for the most part, okay.
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