Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SenorPatty]

Popped as DRK yesterday into Ramuh HM. No problems happened. PLD was new player and I made it known I didnt know tank mechs. Now here was the odd thing: without even looking at gear, I had 3k hp over the pld and yet one guy wantef PLD to main tank. Before he said that though, I had already pulled. Bowed out of the MT role and dpsed.

Was this the case of job tunneling or was it really the better option to make PLD MT because of job related attributes?

[Ignnis]

Pre SB PLD was basically MT because all they had going was all the CDs and defence so the general consensus was that if there was a PLD the PLD would MT and the DRK/WAR would OT/DPS. Not so sure how it stands post SB though.

[ilea]

I'm trying to do Thordan Unsync so I create my own practice party with the only requirement of watching a guide first and two things usually happen:

- People think is a farming party and quit after a wipe because some mechanics require a little practice.

- People ignore the "know the fight" part and it's a show to behold.

Having this same issue with Zurvan EX clear parties. It's unsynced, but Soar is not always skipped -- and people get upset when they think it should be.

Also slightly related: people are trying to get clears for HW EX primals that they missed. Great! But so often lately, I see they minimum ilevel set to 290/300. Why?

If people could clear that content synced and echo-less, you do not need top tier gear from SB.

[The_Shang]

Pre SB PLD was basically MT because all they had going was all the CDs and defence so the general consensus was that if there was a PLD the PLD would MT and the DRK/WAR would OT/DPS. Not so sure how it stands pre SB though.

PLD's actually make great off-tanks now imo. They can jump in with emergency healing, Requiescat + Holy Spirit spam does a fair amount of damage, Cover/Divine Veil on the MT helps keep them in the game more, and your own dps has become slightly better with the increases to potency that pretty much all weaponskills got. Add to that that Fight or Flight has received a significant CD reduction (at the cost of a slightly lower damage increase) and you've got a fairly solid off-tank. Not ideal, but much better as an off-tank than it was before SB.

On topic, I got Shinryu in Trials earlier, only had one wipe. Either player skill is improving or people are having better gear. I'd like to think it's a mix of both, because the thing that caused the wipe was the new dps using LB3 (which actually doesn't do much to Shinryu with average gear levels being what they are), when seconds later crap went down and we needed the healer LB3. Smooth sailing on the second try though, everyone was on point for that.

I also got a good laugh out of the MT's max hp. He was a Warrior with over 60k hp in Defiance xD Side note, I was OT Pally during the fight :3

[bounddreamer]

Pre SB PLD was basically MT because all they had going was all the CDs and defence so the general consensus was that if there was a PLD the PLD would MT and the DRK/WAR would OT/DPS. Not so sure how it stands pre SB though.

Nah, paladins were viable OTs, especially if there was a better geared DRK. Reprisal was only on DRK and easier to proc if they were MT. Also it was generally easier for the DRK to secure and keep aggro.

[Mysterysword]

So Leveling roulette as BLM dropped me into Copperbell Mines. The DRK and NIN both had the returning player icon. The sproutling WHM was so obviously a jump potion user, I was surprised they didn't also have a spambot name.

This DRK's idea of tanking was to run headlong into a bunch of mobs (or pull them with Unmend if I was lucky), toss out a single Unleash (if I was lucky), then spend the rest of the time spamming Syphon Strike combos.

I tanked half that dungeon. The WHM spent the same amount of time with their arms crossed.

I don't think someone gets to complain that tanking is difficult if they refuse to even put the barest ounce of effort into it.

[PharisHanasaki]

So Leveling roulette as BLM dropped me into Copperbell Mines. The DRK and NIN both had the returning player icon. The sproutling WHM was so obviously a jump potion user, I was surprised they didn't also have a spambot name.

This DRK's idea of tanking was to run headlong into a bunch of mobs (or pull them with Unmend if I was lucky), toss out a single Unleash (if I was lucky), then spend the rest of the time spamming Syphon Strike combos.

I tanked half that dungeon. The WHM spent the same amount of time with their arms crossed.

I don't think someone gets to complain that tanking is difficult if they refuse to even put the barest ounce of effort into it.

My newest FC members are both tanks, both did exactly this. Use flash once, and that's it.
It only took me a min to explain that they needed to keep aggro, and spamming flash was sometimes necessary.
They don't lose aggro anymore.

It's not surprising for first time tanks.

[RubyScarlett]

This was a couple of days ago, but I had been farming Susano EX for a while. After all my friends had gone to bed, I had decided to go a quick DR Expert. Can't remember which dungeon it was, but we were plodding along killing all the things. The RDM had gotten a Vul Up debuff and so I go to hit esuna.

I don't know who was more surprised, the RDM or me when they were pulled across the arena to my side instead.


I had forgotten that I had replaced Esuna with Rescue for Susano and had never changed it back.

So sorry RDM, I hope I didn't screw up your rotation!

[Texa]

Whenever I do roulettes lately it's some long drawn out snooze-fest baby dungeon or a complete clustercuss of a party for Susano that I was brought into as a replacement healer with 18 minutes left on the clock. There is no inbetween.

[Ametrine]

Shinryu, queued in progress, say I'm a newbie, they seem happy to have a new healer but I can tell something is off. We go, I try to follow along the best I can, and we hit the add phase. I rez a dead DPS, adlo him and the bombs start to land. I run to safety on the third round and two other DPS die, but I focus on healing the living party and the chains hit.

The DPS I rezzed in chat says, "Thank you for the rez but you should be healing the group and not wasting mana."

I just go "????" in the chat, and we very quickly die in the first rounds of the second part of the fight.

Wasting Mana is raising a dead DPS in a DPS check phase I had never seen before. I just can't.

We wiped from all the pain from the next phase since people decided to just run off to hammer a vote abandon.


Requeued for a new group, had a few learners. We wiped 7 times, but it was a lovely group and the round that got our win went great!