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  1. #51
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    Dsync's Avatar
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    Entity Entatas
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    Less skilled players will naturally start to clear it more often as the average item level of those who know what they're doing gets higher. As their item level gets higher, it becomes easier for them to carry others on their back through the content.
    But then they're just getting carried anyway, which kind of defeats the point of not nerfing it. If not a nerf then the Verity equipment could be made available upon completing the level 70 dungeon that precedes this. You already start earning that anyway.

    This will just be another Steps of Faith. People will do a trial roulette > Get This > Eat The 30 minutes > Others follow
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  2. #52
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'd help you if we were in the same datacenter. It's not really hard, but it's also hard for me to buy your story. First off, you say that you spent 10 hours, then 12 hours (Both times posted with a 3 minutes of difference) non-stop trying to clear this, 3 days ago. Yesterday you stated that you spent 8. So you also say that you belong to a 140+ FC, yet when I check your lodestone, you're in a 4-man FC, not even 70. These last elements might be due how slow the Lodestone might be updating? Although I'm not completely sure about it since mine updates quite quickly.

    Based on how you post, the things you post (post history) and the lack of replies, you may as well be an alt and, of course, a troll.
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 06-29-2017 at 02:28 PM.

  3. #53
    Player FateAudax's Avatar
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    Empyreal Fate
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 70
    This trail is too easy. I'm yawning. In fact, SE should add an echo for this dungeon. Not for us, but for Shinryu.
    It's a freaking dragon, and dragons are supposed to be legendary creatures, but all it takes to beat it are 8 mortals with pointy sticks and flashy lights, zzzzzz.....
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  4. #54
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dsync View Post
    But then they're just getting carried anyway, which kind of defeats the point of not nerfing it. If not a nerf then the Verity equipment could be made available upon completing the level 70 dungeon that precedes this. You already start earning that anyway.

    This will just be another Steps of Faith. People will do a trial roulette > Get This > Eat The 30 minutes > Others follow
    Steps of Faith was nerfed because you needed everyone in the party to coordinate and do the mechanics 100% perfectly (missing one dragonkiller guaranteeing a slow and boring wipe, I think). A better example you could use would be the Final Steps of Faith (which people did/do bail on), which was a fairly difficult fight with a strict DPS check.

    That was never nerfed.
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  5. #55
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    DO NOT NERF IT. PLEASE NO.

    Let's not let it be another Steps of Faith and get nerf right after patch!
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  6. #56
    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Please do not nerf it I havent tried it yet and I would REALLY love to have some challenging content this sounds good n fun to me.
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  7. #57
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    AreciaRhi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Yves Chevalier
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 100
    All of the mechanics in that fight we've seen at least once somewhere before. People needed to pay attention and actually notice what was going on around them and then, clear. Why would the need to nerf? Oh right because people don't know what a mechanic is.
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  8. #58
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Incoming new item: Primeval Brew, now you too can solo Shinryu

    Seriously though. No. Don't nerf. BAD -whack!- This fight was fun and epic on a scale that Thordan failed to deliver (visuals aside). Went in blind and won after 2 wipes. It caused us to communicate, can you believe such a thing? Great fight, leave your nerfy fingers off it and get better, jeez
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  9. #59
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dsync View Post
    But then they're just getting carried anyway, which kind of defeats the point of not nerfing it. If not a nerf then the Verity equipment could be made available upon completing the level 70 dungeon that precedes this. You already start earning that anyway.

    This will just be another Steps of Faith. People will do a trial roulette > Get This > Eat The 30 minutes > Others follow
    "Defeats the point of not nerfing" that's an interesting phrase... The burden lies on you to prove why nerfing is better than not nerfing, inaction doesn't need to justify itself because the devs intended for the fight to be this way.
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  10. #60
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Asking for a nerf after 2 weeks out???

    You might want to consider playing PAC - MAN or games a like
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