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  1. #181
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    PK_THUNER's Avatar
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    Kimchi Jjigae
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 71
    To make str tank work you need both a good tank and a good healer. If you notice that the healer isn't good enough or if they ask, you should switch to vit. I have both a vit set and a str set.

    If I'm running dungeons I'll use vit for big pulls and str for bosses. I also think that str tank is better at teaching tanks and healers on when to use defensive cooldowns and heals.

    I have been running ex susano and lakshmi as a str tank with no problems except when the healers as slow on shields and heals. My fc/raid friend said he likes healing me more because it let's him use Excogitation more often.
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  2. #182
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PK_THUNER View Post
    I also think that str tank is better at teaching tanks and healers on when to use defensive cooldowns and heals. .
    Thank you for saying this. Honestly it does have some truth to it, because many tanks think as long they are overgeared like crazy and have so much HP they shouldn't pop anything at all. Happens too often everywhere honestly.
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  3. #183
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    Jim_Berry's Avatar
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Just like in Heavensward before the VIT/STR at the time, I was still all VIT on my tanks. Yeah, people complained about the low dps, but oh well. I don't do meta or bandwagon.
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  4. #184
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by PK_THUNER View Post
    To make str tank work you need both a good tank and a good healer. If you notice that the healer isn't good enough or if they ask, you should switch to vit. I have both a vit set and a str set.

    If I'm running dungeons I'll use vit for big pulls and str for bosses. I also think that str tank is better at teaching tanks and healers on when to use defensive cooldowns and heals.

    I have been running ex susano and lakshmi as a str tank with no problems except when the healers as slow on shields and heals. My fc/raid friend said he likes healing me more because it let's him use Excogitation more often.
    I fully agree and I really liked that tanks had some options and choices for gearing up (the only role that had that really). This game is really missing meaningful gear choice.

    But I would rather be locked into VIT gear, than have ilvl 270 be BIS for the whole expansion ...
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-29-2017 at 10:04 AM.

  5. #185
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    In that sentence alone, there are already two things that could be fixed without even touching damage output.
    "pressing one button every few minutes"
    "single predictable hit"
    And as i just said straight after, they'd need to change the toolkit of all 3 tanks which won't happen anytime soon.
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  6. #186
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    Furious's Avatar
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tila View Post
    Well I mean DPS need healers to do their role: they would die to damage without them.

    Only healer you could say is entirely self sufficient.
    Without tanks healers would equally die to damage, since they would be tanking (assuming they are healing the damage the dps take).
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  7. #187
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Meh. In futute patch 270 str acc won't be relevant. And 4.0 will vanish in breeze. Wear whatever u want. Just sayin.
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  8. #188
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    And as i just said straight after, they'd need to change the toolkit of all 3 tanks which won't happen anytime soon.
    He is just snarling at you because he think tanks should be able to selfheal themselves. 1 tank can do all the healing will be great for the meta too guys, let's roll 1 tank 7 dps on savage raid.
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  9. #189
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    I fully agree and I really liked that tanks had some options and choices for gearing up (the only role that had that really). This game is really missing meaningful gear choice.
    Problem is, this is not really a "choice". If you're good enough to pull it, STR is better, if you're not, then VIT is just compensating for whatever you lack.
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