The Price History in the New Market System Needs to be a Lot More Than 20

[Solfleur]

In a free market, NO ABUSE CAN TAKE PLACE. Because the transactions are all voluntary, you can simply avoid purchasing.

Apparently you weren't a victim of the inflation/deflation cycle in FFXI.

Well perhaps victim is a bit strong, but it wasn't fun either. Full disclosure is the ONLY way to go or it accomplishes nothing. A free market means an open market with access to ALL buy/sell information, which is why I tore my hair out at the beginning of U.S. beta testing because we didn't have an AH or mail delivery system (and got flamed to hell and gone for it too).

Guess I wasn't so stupid after all. Now if I can just get them to back up off the bastardization of the game via even more WoW-ing up to please the tweener masses, and I may just stick around and play this thing through until they crash and burn or end up with a playable game. My curiosity is beginning to get the better of me...

[Roaran]

I'm all for the above idea of an average price listing, but I also liked the aspect from XI where you couldn't see exactly what the sellers put their wares up for. As is now, everyone just tries to undercut one another into oblivion

"Undercutting" is natural. It's the process by which an ever growing number of goods is capable of getting into a larger number of hands. If all the goods that were up for sale were not being under cut, you would always have a surplus, and there would always be a chunk of goods that never sells. This would potentially mean yours as well.

If you think people are pricing way too low, just buy it out and resell it. And if you aren't able to resell it, at your price, the undercutter actually had the correct price and your's was too high.

Apparently you weren't a victim of the inflation/deflation cycle in FFXI.

Well perhaps victim is a bit strong, but it wasn't fun either. Full disclosure is the ONLY way to go or it accomplishes nothing. A free market means an open market with access to ALL buy/sell information, which is why I tore my hair out at the beginning of U.S. beta testing because we didn't have an AH or mail delivery system (and got flamed to hell and gone for it too).

Guess I wasn't so stupid after all. Now if I can just get them to back up off the bastardization of the game via even more WoW-ing up to please the tweener masses, and I may just stick around and play this thing through until they crash and burn or end up with a playable game. My curiosity is beginning to get the better of me...

I don't really see how you could have an 'inflation/deflation cycle' in an MMO unless, with each update, the developers continually tweak the money supply. Which has sort of happened in FFXIV. They just reduced the rate at which currency was entering the economy. It's hard to tell if there was really any inflation, because you would also need to know the number of goods that currency was being used to purchase.

Prices can go up and down due to supply and demand; this is not inflation. Price histories do not reflect supply and demand unless they show extremely long trends. And in the end, price is determined by the value placed on the item by the purchasers and the price suppliers are willing to bring that item to market: i.e. if someone is 'gouging' prices and people are still willing to purchase at that price, then the market is still perfectly fine. Items should go to those who place the highest value on an item.

[Scherwiz]

Apparently you weren't a victim of the inflation/deflation cycle in FFXI.

Well perhaps victim is a bit strong, but it wasn't fun either. Full disclosure is the ONLY way to go or it accomplishes nothing. A free market means an open market with access to ALL buy/sell information, which is why I tore my hair out at the beginning of U.S. beta testing because we didn't have an AH or mail delivery system (and got flamed to hell and gone for it too).

Guess I wasn't so stupid after all. Now if I can just get them to back up off the bastardization of the game via even more WoW-ing up to please the tweener masses, and I may just stick around and play this thing through until they crash and burn or end up with a playable game. My curiosity is beginning to get the better of me...

Good luck, because if Yoshi looked at the XI auction house at all he probably said no thanks.