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  1. #11
    Player
    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    In initial stages SCH was designed to be a healer that could perform DPS as its design structure stressed ways of mitigating damage in order to afford you time to switch to Cleric stance to at least get up a round of dots. You shielded and maybe fairy buffed a regen and then spent 10-15 seconds getting DoTs on, then lustrated the tank if needed and went from there. However they've made it abundantly clear with the two expansions that they aren't pursuing this mentality any longer. Obviously any healer class designed around doing damage to heal would either have to do very negligible damage, or be very bad at healing, because otherwise it would be a guaranteed raid spot and completely trivialize the other healer classes in higher end content. Teams typically want the best classes for the encounter, and DPS is a big, big part of encounters.

    What do I want to see in a new healer? One with original features that doesn't just unoriginally copy the core set of WHM like the AST did, and a reversion of the trend that is currently making all healers as similar to one another as possible.
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  2. #12
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I agree that Necromancer has it's issues but I do think we need a counter to AST. Balancing 4 healers could potentially be easier because the devs could take the easy way out and balance them to be played together in pairs like WHM and SCH before 3.0.

    Is that a Necromancer? I don't know.

    From the perspective of a healer jaded by time spent on these forums and in PF the idea of being a little more darksided appeals to me on a base level.

    I want the avility to rez someone who died to something I explained to them then control their movement briefly and walk them off the edge of something. MP put to good use.

    /saltyhealerissalty
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  3. #13
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    More than lore reasons, what's the precedent? None of that really sounds like anything I'd be familiar with from the Final Fantasy franchise.

    I'd rather see the classic "hit your allies to heal them" weapons. Would never actually work in the game, but at least that's a throwback to old niche mechanics.
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  4. #14
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    Brightshadow's Avatar
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I don't want it, it better not take the place of our beloved chemist or dancer. They are more iconic to the series than necromancer.

    Necromancer who??
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  5. #15
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    Character
    Grelvin Gilios
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 34
    Rather have Dancer or Puppetmaster, preferably Pup.

    They can make the pet do the heals, I don't care.
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    WTB Support class. I miss you FF11 Bard. Come back to me.

  6. #16
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    Suzuran Shiraishi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    More than lore reasons, what's the precedent? None of that really sounds like anything I'd be familiar with from the Final Fantasy franchise.

    I'd rather see the classic "hit your allies to heal them" weapons. Would never actually work in the game, but at least that's a throwback to old niche mechanics.
    There is not much of a precedent, but it's been used before. Wikia Link

    And of course, there has been characters, mainly foes, that delved into that sort of thing, both in FF14 and others. Nybeth from Tactics Ogre/FF14's Palace of the Dead is, obviously, a strong example.
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    Innocence doesn't mean an absence of wickedness, nor is it represented by the absence of anger or hatred. Innocence is when seeing others hurt also hurts you. When one becomes blind to the people suffering in the world, that is what it means to have lost one's innocence.

  7. #17
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    Character
    Lutemis Rangar
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 10
    Given how much this game pulls from say, FFIII for example, wouldn't it be more likely that further jobs are pulled from the more popular games? If they tried to release every job in Tactics they'd never run out of expansions. Honestly, I just want to see Geomancers Bell in XIV.
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  8. #18
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    E'galyne Ulbik
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    Cerberus
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    Monk Lv 91
    Time Mage can become a good healer ! He can rewind time to make you recover or rez. He is also able to fit in the lore.
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  9. #19
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    Black Beverage
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I am still waiting for close combat Healer, like BLU with a sword and White Wind.
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  10. #20
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffey91 View Post
    I am still waiting for close combat Healer, like BLU with a sword and White Wind.
    RDM would like to say hi.
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    可愛い悪魔

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