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  1. #31
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    When I slot diversion it means that I do not have faith in the tanks ability to manage the amount of enmity they are suppose to be maintaining. I don't have a problem with it, had to do it last night in Lakshmi EX with a main tank and off tank. I try and run extra utility, especially as a Sam. I will slot diversion, not because I want to but because the tank(s) are forcing my hand to.
    Actually, it's not the tank's fault. Samurai and Red Mage generate massive amounts of aggro and due to the changes to VIT, tanks cannot easily hold aggro anymore. So if you're not using Diversion/Elusive, it's you who is messing up not the tank.
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  2. #32
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, it's not the tank's fault. Samurai and Red Mage generate massive amounts of aggro and due to the changes to VIT, tanks cannot easily hold aggro anymore. So if you're not using Diversion/Elusive, it's you who is messing up not the tank.
    This.

    In high ilvl content Diversion and/or LD are set, no discussion needed.
    They are essentially the most important dps role based skills in every serious content.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 06-28-2017 at 05:30 PM.

  3. #33
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    Brannigan's Avatar
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Leonus View Post
    When I slot diversion it means that I do not have faith in the tanks ability to manage the amount of enmity they are suppose to be maintaining. I don't have a problem with it, had to do it last night in Lakshmi EX with a main tank and off tank. I try and run extra utility, especially as a Sam. I will slot diversion, not because I want to but because the tank(s) are forcing my hand to.
    By using hate reducing actions you are allowing the tanks to do more DPS. Therefore, by not using hate reducing actions you are hindering the group and thus playing incorrectly.
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  4. #34
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ArturiaPendragoon View Post
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    Because that would mess-up existing character's glamour using such accessories. in ARR and HW, It's common to use accessories for glamour regardless of their stats. If they were suddenly class restricted, player would suddenly be unable to use the one they have collected for glamour, or to update their same existing glamour when upgrading their gears.
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  5. #35
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I love when people bring up the argument of "str tanks have less hp they're so squishy!". A good tank that mitigates and does damage beats a tank that's in vit that doesn't mitigate or pull their weight. As a drk MT you can eat every Susano EX mid buster at the start with TBN and a CD and have your CDs up for the tank swap and I've mitigated more damage while dishing it out at the same time.

    This discussion has been beaten with the ugly stick so much it's irrelevant at this point, the good tanks will adapt over the bad ones.

    Also HP and mitigation are completely different and are not the same so stop comparing them as one single entity.
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    Last edited by Awful; 06-28-2017 at 10:13 PM.

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