The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

[FNXIV]

I wear long sleeve shirts under short sleeve shirts under long sleeve shirts.

[Preypacer]

keeping an eye on ifrit's body as opposed to a chat log will give you more control over the fight and it's surroundings while also not taking away from your dps. You don't need a chatlog to tell you what he's about to do.

Ifrit drops down into linebacker stance = Eruption = MOVE OUT
Ifrit raises his right arm in the air = Plume = MOVE IN
Ifrit uses "WS red animation" = Incinerate or Burst = DONT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT
Ifrit jumps = Cyclone = MOVE TO THE TANK
Ifrit glows red = the start of Sear = MAX AA RANGE

this isn't rocket surgery people

Bingo.

Of course, despite the clarity of that advice... you will still get folks in the community giving any variation on the following statement:

"Well yeah, I could do all that, but that sounds like work, and this is a game and games are supposed to be fun. I don't play games to watch raid boss animations. I play to relax and unwind. Having to pay attention to what a raid boss is doing and then react is too stressful and not fun. It's unreasonable to expect players to do all that when all they want to do is have some fun in a video game. It would be much more reasonable, and fair to everybody, if SE just made the fight easier so more people could do it and not have to worry about all that. The gaming community is dominated by casual gamers and hardcore fights like that are for elitists, which are not what MMOs are about anymore. Elitists who want that need to go back to EQ and let people who aren't stuck in the past with archaic gameplay systems enjoy modern MMOs the way they're supposed to be. And I know that I'm right and speak for everybody because everybody obviously thinks the same way I do. If they don't think the way I do then they're elitists stuck in the early 2000s."

I'm pretty sure I covered every major argument for dumbing down content, on any forum, on any site, for any MMORPG in that paragraph... Someone let me know if I missed any...

[Kymusashi]

I really don't understand where all of this negativity and complaining is coming from. Animation lock? FFXI had it, and I never heard of it being a bloated issue like this.

Classism? That's going to happen no matter WHAT the content demands or doesn't. Just be glad the "DD of choice" is lancer, because that in of itself does mean a good player can still DD as MRD or PUG for this fight. It just boils down to knowing what to do. Does lancer have an edge? Yes, but it's nothing like what Archer had in Darkhold.

Truth be told, my LS has yet to win this as a full group, as we usually fall short a member or two, and end up getting pick ups. We still win, even when we don't all have sentinel, or are even amazing at avoiding everything. The key to overcoming those problems are to remain calm, know when to back off to recover, and not make things worse.

[Vanguard319]

I can partially agree with the op, I'm a bit annoyed that nobody will even offer me a chance to fight Ifrit simply because I'm an arc, doesn't even matter that I have good gear and materia, if I ask, they'll be like "there's an unclean one among us!", and blow me off.

Seriously, how are you going to know what strategies work when no one's willing to experiment? Forget waiting for someone else to do it, oftentimes it's more expedient to figure these things out for yourself.

[Riv]

I really don't understand where all of this negativity and complaining is coming from. Animation lock? FFXI had it, and I never heard of it being a bloated issue like this.

Well to be fair, i don't remember many (if any) instances in XI where you had to move around so often with such timing and precision. And so there wasn't this issue.

[Richard_BG]

I can partially agree with the op, I'm a bit annoyed that nobody will even offer me a chance to fight Ifrit simply because I'm an arc, doesn't even matter that I have good gear and materia, if I ask, they'll be like "there's an unclean one among us!", and blow me off.

Seriously, how are you going to know what strategies work when no one's willing to experiment? Forget waiting for someone else to do it, oftentimes it's more expedient to figure these things out for yourself.

We went with archers our first 15 runs on 10/04/11 and realized they were complete sh*t for this fight due to lightshot lockups and nerfed multihit buff damage. The experimentation has been done and confirmed. People didn't bring DRG or RNG in XI when they got heavily nerfed. It happens in every MMO. Content doesn't always cater to your class.

[Kymusashi]

I don't know, maybe I'm a more tolerant gamer. I just can't believe people want the devs to make it so we can cast, use ws, and abilities while running and having no pause. That idea just sounds really lazy, IMO. There are thousands of video games in just about every genre that have "animation lock". It clearly isn't a "problem".

As for archer, they can use the same safe spots as mages do.

[RolandDebreton]

"Dangerous to the community?" Resentment? "Community Unity?" Do you know what I resent? Inanity. Look it up, it's a great word. Phrases like the the unity of the community and other talking points are growing to be way too common. These things are being used as a bludgeon by the inane to try to get one's way.

They feel left behind, weak, listless, and are not being listened to - they are the little guy. Do you know why? Because they are inane, they are spectacularly boring and repetitive, they don't like a challenge they want it all handed over. They scream they represent the majority, they scream loud and long and far; and surely that means they are the voice of all.

I am part of the community, you do not represent me, and your entire idealism that everyone feels like this beat up lost weak creature is not who I am. Your demands that people that can succeed need to be diminished are as invalid as your fallacious logic that you are in fact the representative of the masses. I'm tired of these wearying demands that we hear you out, while you hold us hostage with a sad, whining persistence.

I speak for me. I like this battle, I like challenges, I like scores being kept, I like getting beat sometimes to get better, I like red ink on my errors, I like difference, I like division, I like hierarchy, I like rich, I like good, I like strong.

I am not a victim, and I will not have people like me made into sacrifices to mediocracy. To quote Hank Reardon, "If it is now the belief of my fellow men, who call themselves the public, that their mood requires victims, then I say: The public good be damned, I will have no part of it!"

[Richard_BG]

"Dangerous to the community?" Resentment? "Community Unity?" Do you know what I resent? Inanity. Look it up, it's a great word. Phrases like the the unity of the community and other talking points are growing to be way too common. These things are being used as a bludgeon by the inane to try to get one's way.

They feel left behind, weak, listless, and are not being listened to - they are the little guy. Do you know why? Because they are inane, they are spectacularly boring and repetitive, they don't like a challenge they want it all handed over. They scream they represent the majority, they scream loud and long and far; and surely that means they are the voice of all.

I am part of the community, you do not represent me, and your entire idealism that everyone feels like this beat up lost weak creature is not who I am. Your demands that people that can succeed need to be diminished are as invalid as your fallacious logic that you are in fact the representative of the masses. I'm tired of these wearying demands that we hear you out, while you hold us hostage with a sad, whining persistence.

I speak for me. I like this battle, I like challenges, I like scores being kept, I like getting beat sometimes to get better, I like red ink on my errors, I like difference, I like division, I like hierarchy, I like rich, I like good, I like strong.

I am not a victim, and I will not have people like me made into sacrifices to mediocracy. To quote Hank Reardon, "If it is now the belief of my fellow men, who call themselves the public, that their mood requires victims, then I say: The public good be damned, I will have no part of it!"

I'm pretty sure i love you and my raging boner agrees with me.

[RolandDebreton]

I'm pretty sure i love you and my raging boner agrees with me.

If you'll pardon the pun, glad I could be a rousing success with you. So, thanks... I think.