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    Rika007's Avatar
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    Rika Lockhart
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Not getting any of the raid wide buffs we are providing to the rest of the raid is really a bit of a hit, not just the defensive effects of Troubadour. Especially since Dragoon now has more competition with SAM sitting around, we aren't getting our piercing debuff and battle litany like we used to that as so important due to how crit important the job is. It just takes so much work to do comparable DPS now.
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    KaiSunstrider's Avatar
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    Kai Sunstrider
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Rika007 View Post
    Not getting any of the raid wide buffs we are providing to the rest of the raid is really a bit of a hit, not just the defensive effects of Troubadour. Especially since Dragoon now has more competition with SAM sitting around, we aren't getting our piercing debuff and battle litany like we used to that as so important due to how crit important the job is. It just takes so much work to do comparable DPS now.
    I would just like confirmation that this is working as intended more than anything. Im ok with the 2% crit buff being everyone but us because we have our own song uses, but I dont see why battle voice wouldn't affect us as well.
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    Bardo Phor
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    Sargatanas
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KaiSunstrider View Post
    I would just like confirmation that this is working as intended more than anything.
    Well, you basically do have confirmation with the 2% crit and Battle Voice.
    Look at the Text for Refresh: Gradually restores own MP and the MP of all nearby party members.
    It specifically says "own AND party"
    Now look at the text for Battle Voice: Increases direct hit rate of all party members ....
    Or the crit effect on our songs: Increases Critical Hit rate of all party members ....
    Neither of them mention "own".

    But Troubadour is an oddity because even though you don't get the crit buff from your songs, you do get the second "additional effect".
    And Troubadour says "adds an additional effect" and doesn't mention either own or party, so it's possible it's actually meant to effect us and isn't working properly.
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    Eath Demon
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    would like the +2% crit, but not having our RAID WIDE defensive work on us is just stupid. it means someone else has so cd us, as we cd the raid wtf.
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